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[–] [email protected] 76 points 1 year ago (4 children)

What is "five times shorter?" Is that one fifth as long? We can't really measure the shortness of a thing, only its length.

Sorry, it's a pet peeve of mine.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

I would have commented just this and nothing else if you weren't already doing god's work.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It should have said "...is 0.2 times longer"

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No, that would be 20% longer, not five times shorter.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

20% longer means 120% of the length.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yes but how girthy is it?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah, good point. May just be clear and say "It is 1/5th the length"?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

0.2 times the length of*

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I read that as 20% longer.. aka 120% the length.

What about "...is 0.2 times the length"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

0.2 times as long.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The shortness of a thing is an aspect of its length. Your comment makes no sense. Five times shorter means that you can play Mirage five times in the same time it takes to play Valhalla once. I'm pedantic as hell but this comes off to me as fake pedantry.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, I'm being quite pedantic, but it is genuine. It's a common language mistake that frustrates me.

Don't try to multiply a relative descriptor when you can use hard numbers (i.e. it's 20 hours shorter) or the appropriate relative measurement (i.e. it's 20% as long). It's both improper English and less clear (maybe "2 times harder to understand"?) to do so.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think we can measure your shortness of breath right there, tho

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Nope, but you can measure my respiratory rate.