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China is markedly worse than the US, though.
China did not invade Iraq or Afganistan
As an American, I can say that my government sucks for invading Iraq and Afghanistan and face no repercussions. I did so before those wars and have done so repeatedly since.
As a Chinese citizen, I can be arrested for singing a song about Hong Kong. Or saying that Tibet isn't China, or that Taiwan should be left alone. God forbid I ask about what's happening in Xinjiang. Or what happened in Beijing in 1989, or why the Great Leap Forward resulted in so many deaths of my countrymen. Or practicing Flaun Dafa, or whatever else.
Nobody is saying the US is perfect: the US has its problems, we can and should be better. But China is never honest about their shit and punishes people who are. China's markedly worse than the US.
They let you complain about Iraq and Afghanistan because your complaints are irrelevant. You have no power to change policy.
I have free speech rights under the constitution. That's not the case in China.
Don't shift the goal posts - there's a huge difference between the countries, and China is strictly worse.
China did not destroy the city of Fallujah, America did. All those speech rights did not save those people who were murdered by American soldiers.
The US didn't take over Tibet and resettle Han Chinese there (that's genocide, deliberately destroying a culture ). The US isn't committing a genocide on the Uyghurs in Xinjiang. The US isn't imprisoning and executing Falun Dafa adherents.
The US allows us to make changes for the better. We can stand for office and become ta source of change, we can band together as citizens to make change. Our system isn't perfect, but it is dramatically better than China's, all your cynicism aside.
The US is a settler colonial state based on the successful genocide of indigenous peoples and chattel slavery, this dick measuring contest isnt in your favour. The FBI are enforcers of state will and the CIA is a global terror organization. It also backs apartheid in Isnotreal and has exterminated millions of muslims under bush and obama. Guantamo bay exists and institutional racism and xenophobia is rampant.
China has... handled domestic affairs in ways that deserve criticism? Hate to break to you, but the US and its collaborators dont care about muslim uyghurs outside of propoganda. The US is not a democracy.
Genocides are ok if they’re “domestic affairs”? That’s a bad case of brainworms, kid.
Edit: more accurate quote
Your system led to invasions, wars and mass murder.
China's system led to invasions, wars, and mass murder. China's system has no way for the citizens to do anything about it. The US system does, and citizens have forced change repeatedly throughout US history.
And to reiterate, the US government is not perfect and still does bad things. But it's entirely better than China's.
Your claim that the US government is better than China is unfounded and unsupported. China did not invade any countries in my lifetime. The US has invaded and bombed many countries in my lifetime. US citizens have the blood of innocents in their hands; they too are murderers by extension.
Free speech in the US is a giant lie that you guys tell to yourselves. People can be stripped of their US citizenships and deported even as a legally naturalized US citizen for expressing pro communist views, look it up. How is this free speech?
@fist_of_fartitude @ghariksforge if you're an american maybe