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Could federation be a turn-off for more 'mainstream' users? (self.lemmyworld)

submitted 2 years ago by drubbis to c/lemmyworld

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Hey everyone, I'm honestly really liking Lemmy so far. Maybe that's because it feels so much like browsing reddit 10 years ago and I think it's safe to say many of us have migrated from the blackout. I'd been a Reddit user since 2010 so I've witnessed the slow decline over the years but popping here has really driven home how corporate it started to feel--less like a genuine hub of community and more like a manufactured product with low effort content and some genuine discussion/input peppered throughout.

That said, does anyone feel the idea of a federated platform might be confusing to some less network-savvy users? There's other successful multi-server platforms like Discord but somehow for me the idea of a 'chatroom' versus something more like a forum/board seems like it would make more sense to a less informed user. I could see hearing that posts are aggregating from other sites or being cross-visible confusing to individuals who understand web usage as, 'visit site--post to site--view content on site'.

Does that make sense? lol Anyways, loving the site so far--hope to see it grow!

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[–] Incinerate 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Just joined, absolutely puzzled about how this thing is structured. I can (just about) see how things are structured, after some stops and starts and also understand why that’s a positive thing now but it’s all backwards for me. Why should a user need to get to grips with all of that, and flit around wondering which instance might contain content they want when they just want to start reading stuff that interest them? I’ve joined this instance, who am I missing out on seeing in others? What’s being said in others that I’ll regret missing? Why is it all walled off seemingly necessitating me to register afresh each time I want to check someone where else out?

The content needs to come first, the structure should be presented and needed to be understood secondarily, it’s backwards and it WILL put people off I’m afraid.

[–] ffejhog 24 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

You don't need to make an account for other instances.

It's like email, just becuase you may have an email account with Gmail doesn't mean you are prevented from emailing Yahoo accounts.

If you have an account on lemmy.world, you can still read/comment/etc posts on other instances such as lemmy.ml. You may need to change the toggle from "local" to "all", but you should be able to interact with other communities

From a slightly more technical perspective - ActivityPub is the protocol(like how email uses MIME and whatever the RFC is lol). Any activitypub service can hypothically communicate with any other activitypub service.(In practice is another story) This includes lemmy, mastodon, peertube and even facebook's upcoming Thread service.

[–] heili 8 points 2 years ago

You don’t need to make an account for other instances.

Until that community you subscribe to on another instance disappears because they defederate from one that your account is on due to that other one not being a safe space.

[–] Hyperslob 1 points 2 years ago

Hi. New user here! I think the Fediverse is cool but there are definitely some anomalies. I have a lemmy.world account and a kbin.social one too.

I posted on the Steam [email protected] instance using lemmy.world. The thing is, there is one comment that is visible using my kbin.social that is not visable using my lemmy.world account. If I hadn't checked I would not know about this comment. Every other comment works fine, and I have waited about a day to see if it would appear. Don't know if it's a bug, or a feature!

Really enjoying the experience overall.