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[–] DrAnthony 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Now I can only speak for the US, but most major cities have ring roads or some sort of bypass that would be perfect for a hub and spoke sort of setup alongside them. Maybe it's just the fact that the university I went to famously has a light rail system and the concept is just embedded in me, but I'd imagine the uptake of a park and ride approach with stations out in the burbs (certainly not all of them, but laid out so that you don't need to go more than a burb or two over to reach a station) would be high enough to be worth it. Putting in some shops at the stations like an airport foodcourt would help offset building costs and whatnot to a degree over time as well. Then you could tie the hubs into other major cities in the state and you've got yourself a compelling transit system, doubly so if those cities have subways.

[–] Fried_out_Kombi 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

A benefit of starting with a park-and-ride setup is, if you have good protected bike lanes and secure bike parking, you can encourage a lot of bike and ebike trips to the transit hubs. If every suburb isn't too far from a transit hub, that makes a compelling case for bikes and ebikes as first- and last-mile solutions for a lot of people. Maybe not everyone, and maybe not overnight, but definitely for a lot of people. And any improvement is still improvement.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I understand what it means, but "last mile" is a really funny term because walking a mile is apparently inconceivable to the average american

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Man, I'm fat as fuck and I still regularly walk 2 miles to go get junk food. 1 mile there, 1 mile back. Once walked 5 miles cuz I got lost on a hiking trail and that sucked. But mostly due to being lost in the god damn woods.

[–] DrAnthony 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You know, the bike wrinkle is something I hadn't even considered. That's an awesome point and all the more reason why we need to build a better transit system.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Multimodal transport is amazing. Ride bike to station - ride a fast train - ride from station to destination.