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[–] muertinez 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

lol forreal.

also why do so many of these conspiracy nuts apparently have no grasp on just how old and how large the universe is? like please tell me how creatures more advanced than humans (which took 4.5 billion years on one planet to evolve enough complexity to even understand space travel) would somehow line up perfectly with our timeline and somehow be close enough and interested enough in us to say hello, but also be super sneaky about it…mmkay

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Humans have no sense of scale. We evolved in the context of hunter/gatherers on the African savanna, we intuitively grasp the sorts of numbers and scales that we would encounter there. A few hundred people. A few dozen miles. A human lifetime. Tiny, trivial values on the scale that we're having to deal with even in just our own current everyday civilization. The universe as a whole makes such things unimaginably insignificant - "unimaginable" in the literal sense, we're just not wired for it. We have to invent systems of mathematics to handle that kind of thinking for us.

Yeah. If there are indeed alien intelligences visiting us, they're likely incomprehensible and we have zero chance of doing anything they don't anticipate perfectly and can't handle without difficulty.

[–] muertinez 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

yea…theres so many fallacies with ufo conspiracies…its just boring…

like why are these aliens so damn interested in contacting the US…and why do they suck so bad at driving their intergalactic spaceships????

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

The latest whistle-blower, David Grusch, claimed that many different nations' governments know about the UAPs. He also claimed the first contact was in Italy during Mussolini's dictatorship.

Grusch has legitimate credentials as an intelligence officer, and had clearance from the pentagon to talk about what he did. So there's definitely something interesting going on, at the very least.