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A user on our instance reported a post on lemmynsfw as CSAM. Upon seeing the post, I looked at the community it was part of, and immediately purged all traces of that community from our instance.

I approached the admins of lemmynsfw and they assured me that the models with content in the community were all verified as being over 18. The fact that the community is explicitly focused on making the models appear as if they're not 18 was fine with them. The fact that both myself and one a member of this instance assumed it was CSAM, was fine with them. I was in fact told that I was body shaming.

I'm sorry for the lack of warning, but a community skirting the line trying to look like CSAM isn't a line I'm willing to walk. I have defederated lemmynsfw and won't be reinstating it whilst that community is active.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Young looking adults also aren't the issue.

The issue is a community that focuses heavily on models that are framed to look like they're not adults.

Not adults roleplaying. Not adults that incidentally happen to look younger than they are.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Again, the issue is a community with models that are framed to look like they're not adults.

There is no scenario where something that can be mistaken for CSAM will have a space here.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And again, these are adults on an instance that was explicitly designated for NSFW works. Defederating was entirely within your right but these justifications seem really poorly thought out, and could have unintended consequences.

Should we shun non consensual play? Should we defederate from anything that shows BDSM? Because I can't see any reason why your justifications wouldn't apply to them

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Defederating was entirely within your right but these justifications seem really poorly thought out, and could have unintended consequences.

You disagreeing with the decision doesn't make it poorly thought out.

Because I can’t see any reason why your justifications wouldn’t apply to them

There is no outcome here that leads to me saying "Ah, good point, this makes me ok with content that can be mistaken for CSAM"

Hypotheticals and what ifs do not change the fact that I encountered something that looked like CSAM, and when I looked at the community in question, I encountered more of it.

That's a hard no.