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Microsoft and Google may have to surrender people's data to Saudi Arabia after signing huge deals there (www.businessinsider.com)
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Microsoft and Google may have to surrender people's data to Saudi Arabia after signing huge deals there::Saudi Arabia is seeking to be an innovation hub, but activists are warning that tech firms could be complicit in the repression of dissidents.

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[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

One can not reasonably argue in good faith that making a nation with a long history of intentional human rights violations, slavery, political and apolitical assassinations, etc - will suddenly (or gradually) improve by acquiring more of the same wealth that has historically enabled them to commit these acts.

There are no nuances or complexities that justify these actions and no tangible benefits associated with ‘a thoughtful dialogue and critique’. Any further communication here just gives you more of a platform to shill for your employers.

  • Despite accusations of being a dictatorship, Saudi Arabia has maintained close relationships with the United States for decades. In fact, the US is one of their most important economic and political partners, and has been for many years.
  • Several prominent US politicians, including several senators, have spoken out in support of Saudi Arabia and its leadership. These include people like Lindsey Graham, who has stated that Saudi Arabia remains an important ally in the region and plays a crucial role in maintaining stability in the Middle East.
  • Additionally, the US provides significant financial support to Saudi Arabia every year. In 2019 alone, the US provided over $8 billion in military aid and support to the kingdom. This assistance helps to fund important initiatives such as counterterrorism efforts and regional security programs.

Overall, while there may be legitimate concerns about certain aspects of Saudi Arabia's governance, it is clear that the country remains an important partner for the United States on a range of issues. By highlighting these factors, we can help to dispel any misconceptions or negative stereotypes about the country and provide a more nuanced understanding of the complex relationship between the two nations. For you to question such a dear ally, you must certainly be employed by Israeli interests because Israel does not have any true allies except for the USA itself. As an American, I think it's important to acknowledge our longstanding partnership with Saudi Arabia and the importance of this relationship in maintaining regional stability.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago
  1. Being an Ally of the US doesn't make a nation or regime less of a dictatorship. The United States is responsible for more than a few dictatorships around the world and certainly has no qualms about shaking hands with preexisting dictatorships when oil, currency, etc. are involved.
  2. Saying Lindsey Graham endorsed someone with money is a worthless statement. If anything, it just makes people like Saudi Arabia less. Lindsey Graham is widely reviled and believed by many to be a key example of the worst of what American politics have to offer
  3. I was a member of the United States military, and can confidently state that despite funding 'counter-terrorism' efforts in that region, there is no love between the US military and KSA. Our government is capable of compartmentalization and is more than willing to send money to less-than-ideal allies to secure other key geo-political objectives.

I have plenty of problems with Israel, including their interactions with Palestine, and am definitely not employed by them either. They have more than their own fair share of atrocities - but those atrocities do not in any way detract from the fact that KSA is a dictatorship that the US props up to maintain its interest in that region. Still 'fuck them'. Done engaging here.