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[–] deafboy -1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I thought owning the means of production was the point, but requiring a consistent argument from a communist is like requiring a consistent argument from a communist.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Common ownership" as in the workers collectively own the means of production. You, individually, don't get to own it, but a union of workers, a local collective, or the state might own it and decisions would be made, ostensibly, by the workers who make up those entities.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

or the state might own it

In other words... the workers don't own squat.

[–] Asafum 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There would generally be mandatory meetings for workers to attend that would allow for debates on the trajectory of the company. The state would "own" it but the workers would still direct it.

In a very very small way, it is like what Germany does with large corporations. They require a percentage of the board of directors be actual workers so it's not just a bunch of capitalist parasites making decisions that would hurt workers just to boost their own portfolios/profits.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The word 'union' kind of brings more ring to the "workers' ownership" in that case. 'State' sounds spooky.

Your example is unheard to me tho. Kinda interesting how it works out.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Depends to what extent the state can be said to truly represent the workers.

[–] Asafum 4 points 1 year ago

An individual can't own the means of production, it's supposed to be "owned" by the people. I'm not a communist, but that argument never changed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

But that's what this meme says