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I mean... I come from the forum scene and they were always called PMs, as in Private Message. What in the hell does DM stand for and when did things change from people calling them PMs to DMs.

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[–] [email protected] 93 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Twitter used Direct Message instead of Private Message because they needed to establish that there is legally no understanding of privacy for DMs, because Twitter will surrender the contents of DMs to law enforcement / government / data collection. Fediverse should also use DM because there is again no guarantee of privacy (and you do not expect there to be).

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

As if admins of the older forum softwares couldn't just query the database for anyone's private messages.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Didn’t they also switch the wording from “data protection” to “data usage”?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Still, the conversation is private, as in not public. Even if it is surrendered to the authorities, the'll probably never be released publicly (unless leaked).

[–] cbarrick -5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Fediverse should also use DM because there is again no guarantee of privacy (and you do not expect there to be).

Matrix is the fediverse's messaging platform. It has end-to-end encryption, so you do actually have a guarantee of privacy.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There are DMs on lemmy and they are not using Matrix. Matrix's security doesn't matter if you are not actually using Matrix

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Why would lemmy not have E2EE for person to person messages?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

It's quite a lot of work to implement. Maybe one day. Same problem on Mastodon

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

why bother? if you need actual private messaging, you can just use matrix

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Privacy is improved when it is there by default

[–] cbarrick 0 points 1 year ago

Yes, but when you click the DM button on lemmy.world there's a big red warning telling you to use matrix (element.io) instead.

[–] ominouslemon 5 points 1 year ago

Matrix is not part of the Fediverse