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An Israeli high school student was arrested and questioned by police for doing a Nazi salute during a school trip to Auschwitz, Israeli media reported on Sunday.

The teenager from Kiryat Bialik was on his school's field trip to Poland when he did the gesture under the entrance sign to the camp.

He was questioned for two hours by Polish police and was fined approximately NIS 1,500 after security guards observed him performing the salute. The museum also captured the incident on its security cameras; the footage was handed over to the police.

Polish police charged him with promoting Nazism, local media reported. Performing a seig heil is illegal in Poland, and carries a potential sentence of up to two years in prison.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

the fact that teenagers have underdeveloped reasoning skills

I can get that to a degree (like a 13 year old) but by 15 or 16 I expect about the same level of adulting as a US midwestern adult (not really a super high bar but enough to know that doing a nazi salute in a place dedicated to the memory of the victims of nazis while on a school trip from the only nation made up of the primary target of those same nazis, might be a life changing act).

I just don't get the level of coddling that is now going on with an increasingly older limit of what is considered children. I remember working my first part time job at 13 and told by older people then they moved out at the same age (so I should stop complaining or some such), and now I am told about 25 year old "kids". Its nuts, these are functioning people and although yes some stupid actions are expected when young there is no reason to not hold people to at least a modicum of responsibility.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

... do you think Midwesterners have undeveloped reasoning skills on par with 16 year olds? I mean you readily admit that you expect stupid actions from them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

More I expect stupid actions from people in general but I don't think 16 year olds are any worse then most adults. I used midwesterners as an example of people in the USA that are not the most or least likely to do something really stupid. (more a dig on americans in general)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

The fact that a 16yo has worse reasoning skills than an adult is fairly well researched. I wouldn't call them a child though. But as a society we decided long ago that an <18yo isn't held to the same standard of criminal liability as someone 18 or older. I don't really know that I've seen what you're referencing with 25 year olds being called kids. I just think there are too many folks in this thread that seem to think a high school student should go to prison for something like this.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago

Prison? No, that is not a fair response. Community service? sure. But I would say the same thing for an adult.

The sad part is that their home nation can not really do much to teach about the evils of genocide to this youth so I imagine this will be more of a "you made us look bad" sort of think.