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[–] JcbAzPx 8 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

401k is a scam that was used to help kill pensions. The only reason to use one if your job locks part of your pay behind matching some of your contributions.

Even the tax savings is a lie. It's just a deferment and you pay the full income tax rate on it when you are eventually forced to withdrawal it. Even on the gains if you're lucky enough to be up when you need it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 16 hours ago

It also systematically intentionally forces the most vulnerable to be entirely dependent and aligned on capitalism

[–] 13igTyme 2 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Yes. You eventually pay the taxes on it. However, there is this thing you've never heard of called "Marginal Tax Brackets" This makes it so that when I do eventually pay the taxes on it, I'm not paying at the income level of when I was employed and instead much lower when I'm retired.

Pensions are better, but calling a 401k a scam just makes you look stupid.

[–] JcbAzPx 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

If you have enough in it to live comfortably, it's not better than rolling your own and paying at the capital gains rate. To actually save you better really like tuna fish sandwiches.

[–] 13igTyme -5 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I would suggest you learn a little more about how Capital gains tax rates, both short-term and long-term, are impacted on a 1099 form, before talking about tax breaks, tax brackets, or investments. Please do not give anyone advice. You are not a financial advisor and the advice you are giving, would ensure no one has a life or savings before or even after retirement.

[–] JcbAzPx 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Advice you yourself seem determined to ignore.

[–] 13igTyme 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Well let's compare advice.

Your advice is: "Don't invest money. Store it under your mattress. 401ks are scams because I don't understand taxes."

My advice is: "Don't listen to this moron."

[–] JcbAzPx 0 points 4 hours ago

Your reading comprehension issues do not speak well to your advisory abilities.