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GrapheneOS users, do you use google camera or secure camera. (mander.xyz)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Secure camera is really good. However I find google camera works better in low light with fast moving object, like in door photo of moving pet etc.

For my use case, I have to install GCAM on my main profile, since my wife like to use it; and I don't want to go through the hassel of transferring photos between profile. But of course, I denied internet access and setup storage scope for GCAM.

But that left me wondering, am I just making my life harder by using secure camera as default? Since it seems that although secure camera is pretty good, it is not as optimized as GCAM. I already have GCAM on my phone, so I cannot think of any privacy benefit by not setting it as the default.

What do you think? do you use GCAM or secure camera, and why?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Theoretically, google camera can talk to play service, which can send telemetry through there. This is somewhat likely as play service do handle telemetry.

Another unlikely scenario is that it talks to another app's proprietary play service library code. This means even if you don't have play service installed as long ad there is any app that uses play service, like slack, outlook, teams, even signal; then google app can send/receive data through the internet without network premission. Although this is technically doable for google, it is highly unlikely that they will o this.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Thanks for explaining. I hope they consider this privilege escalation and don't do it like that.

I'm not sure. I should be safe, there are no google services or proprietary cloud apps on my device. I use Nextcloud for that and Matrix to chat. (I have a banking app, though, and a few other proprietary apps with tracking libraries included. Never checked what kind of servers they talk to.)