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[–] [email protected] 22 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Since the court has made it so the President can do anything without risk, why would he listen to you now? There are no consequences for him doing anything.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

This is a misconception that should stop.

The Supreme Court ruled that the executive branch can't bring criminal charges against someone for acts that were done as President.

Here's what that doesn't stop:

  • Criminal cases against the former president for non-official acts.
  • Civil cases against the former president for acts, whether official or non-official.
  • Criminal charges against anyone else who wasn't literally the president
  • Civil cases against the government, its agencies, its officers, or its employees.

The Supreme Court fucked up when it said prosecutors can't use official acts as evidence relating to unofficial acts, which basically made it impossible to prosecute a whole bunch of types of crimes.

But what it doesn't do is stop people from suing the government, here and now, for breaking the law, or stop the courts from ordering the government to comply with the law.

And the scope of immunity covers only the President personally. Any other adviser, employee, or officer can still be prosecuted for breaking the law, including following the President's illegal orders.

Part of the Trump strategy right now is to demoralize the opposition and make us believe that he actually has all the power. He doesn't, at least not yet. We shouldn't make it easy for him by assuming that he can break the law with impunity, and instead we should make sure we continue to do everything in our power to hold him and everyone who helps implement his agenda accountable.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

The president can Pardon himself and his buddies. Your points mean nothing. The glorious leader is free to do as he likes. That is the world we live in now. Time to wake up.

[–] MJKee9 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Pardons don't protect against civil liability. Example: a pardoned person won't go to prison for shooting someone in the leg. But the person who got shot can still sue for pain and suffering etc

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 hours ago

Civil Liability has done nothing to stop the president from doing anything he wants. Even with judgements against him he says the same things and does the same things. It means nothing other than costing him some money.

[–] finitebanjo 28 points 16 hours ago

For me this is really hitting home that he can just cancel defence contracts, start investigations into the EPA without evidence in an attempt to seize grants, and freeze funds for the medical care of 79 Million Americans and then every cocksucking Republican in Congress gives him a standing ovation.

And this is just the second month.