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[–] bouh 47 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (6 children)

Biden is not responsible for what Trump is doing. He is responsible for letting it happen. He failed to fight maga during the 4 years he had all the powers to do it.

To be accurate, it is not a fault, it is a failure. His responsibility is on this failure, not anything else.

[–] victorz 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Are police also "responsible" for "letting crime happen"? I don't understand the reasoning here.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

See how long you last as police chief if you choose to not suppress crime.

So yeah, police are explicitly responsible for minimising crime, that’s literally their job.

I admit there’s some nuance there since police aren’t expected to actually prevent all crime. In this metaphor I guess the question is whether Trump is a bog standard criminal that maybe gets around the police but is kept mostly in check, or if he’s a special level of super-criminal that police chief Biden should have his career judged against.

[–] victorz 1 points 47 minutes ago

The thing is, the people chose to have crime. They were presented with a criminal, and chose him. And I'm not even following the metaphor anymore either; he's literally a criminal. The police can't fight crime if the majority of people want crime.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Is Biden also to blame for Trump's first 4 years? It's the people's fault! It's your damn fault too! The world is still waiting for riots and precautions of election manipulation etc. But nothing comes from you. Just peaceful protests while trump pisses in your faces.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 16 hours ago

Damn… I’m going to keep “not a fault, it’s a failure” in my back pocket. I’ve never heard it put that way when discussing a screw up that wasn’t really someone’s fault (in this case Biden, but could be Dems or even situations not politics related)

I feel being critical without blaming unfairly is a huge part of my personality, and so this type of convo actually comes up kinda frequently in my life, since so many people struggle to see gray areas between right and wrong, at fault and not at fault.

But what you said is a perfect way to better ensure that the meaning doesn’t get lost to blaming, after which the conversation is usually a lost cause.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 19 hours ago

the powers trump is using now is not actual presidential powers and I would not see it used by their guys or ours. congress is the one who could have stopped this. mainly back when trump was in office and going through with the impeachment.

[–] Snowclone 0 points 13 hours ago

There is something there, but I don't know about Biden being the main focus. It feels like a little mini civil war where after the US Civil War for a very brief moment we had African American politicians, leaders, businesses, and equality seemed at least possible. Then you have the KKK and white supremacy pop up and it's all gone. We had a brief run with what felt like some equality or equitable society, and then a big white supremacist movement came up and they are moving hell and earth to drag us back to the 1770s

[–] Goodmorningsunshine 0 points 20 hours ago

"n'y thing"? What the fuck?