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[–] [email protected] 2 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

I don't know... I feel like this is all premeditated. Project 2025 basically describes this exact thing: get EU to stop relying on the US. It's all a bit more insidious than just Old Donnie being stupid and vain. I truly wonder whether this is a US conservative's gamble to get stronger allies, or just a much bigger plan to extract more wealth for the rich in the US.

I, for one, would love to see Europe get rid of American dependence, but I have a feeling that everything will go back to the usual after getting peace in Ukraine. The US has enough buffer between them, China and Russia to not care, and plan for much farther ahead. They will keep lining up the pockets of policy makers to get them to lean towards their interests, and 2-3 generations down the line we nudge even closer to far right capitalism. Especially since Europe now might start shifting it's industry to produce weapons, which will take our focus away from other important areas, like local chip manufacturing.

I'm curious to hear other opinions though. What is your take on all of this?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 12 hours ago

I have longed for us to detach the umbilical, but it's kinda sad that the country is being demolished so fast and it will not be fun at all when they start killing women and gays and then some new random thing their leader fancies

[–] [email protected] 2 points 16 hours ago

Similar thought to your first paragraph, now that the dust is settling. My best guess is the current US playbook is to risk most of the US soft power and take advantage of its current economic position to really bolster its hard power so the US is in a position to exert more direct force/coerce the rest of the world for what it wants and have more control over policy in other countries. If that's really the case then china is probably the biggest threat to that gamble as it's been catching up to or surpassing the US in a few industries recently. And if the gamble fails the economy sinks for a while and Europe or china passes the us as the global powerhouse.