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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago (7 children)

I totally agree with these guys being arrested. I want to get that out of the way first.

But what crime did they commit? They didn't abuse children...they are AI generated and do not exist. What they did is obviously disgusting and makes me want to punch them in the face repeatedly until it's flat, but where's the line here? If they draw pictures of non-existent children is that also a crime?

Does that open artists to the interpretation of the law when it comes to art? Can they be put in prison because they did a professional painting of a child? Like what if they did a painting of their own child in the bath or something? Sure the contents questionable but it's not exactly predatory. And if you add safeguards for these people could then not the predators just claim artistic expression?

It just seems entirely unenforceable and an entire goddamn can of worms...

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I actually do not agree with them being arrested.

While I recognize the issue of identification posed in the article, I hold a strong opinion it should be tackled in another way.

AI-generated CSAM might be a powerful tool to reduce demand for the content featuring real children. If we leave it legal to watch and produce, and keep the actual materials illegal, we can make more pedophiles turn to what is less harmful and impactful - a computer-generated image that was produced with no children being harmed.

By introducing actions against AI-generated materials, they make such materials as illegal as the real thing, and there's one less reason for an interested party not to go to a CSAM site and watch actual children getting abused, perpetuating the cycle and leading to more real-world victims.

[–] drmoose 2 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

Nah the argument that this could grow "pedophile culture" and even encourage real activities is really not that far fetched and could be even true. Without very convincing studies do you take a chance where real kids could soon suffer? And I mean the studies would have to be really convincing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 20 hours ago

The thing is, banning is also a consequential action.

And based on what we know about similar behaviors, having an outlet is likely to be good.

Here, the EU takes an approach of "banning just in case" while also ignoring the potential implications of such bans.

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