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Italy calls for 'immediate' summit between US, Europe following Zelensky-Trump clash
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I'm Italian and I would have never thought that Meloni would be the reasonable one in this shit. Oh well.
She is just trying to act as interface between Europe (edit) and US. No idea why Italian government is always convinced to have a special relationship with the US, most likely because they are non threading to US hegemony as Germany or France are.
Denmark thought so, too. And of course Hungary still thinks it. When everybody thinks they will get special treatment from the US, internal cohesion suffers, as evidenced by this "summit" bullshit.
Interesting, I guess it's hard for me to know the viewpoint of other countries that are not so much in the spotlight (no offense, of course). I know close to 0 about Denmark's relationship with US, for example.
Because Italy has no natural resources and we evolved into the perfect slave of American neocolonialism. Without the US buying our shit, we would have our economy in shambles.
France and Germany (our actual major trade partner btw, US is second) have made VERY different investments.
We have also never been imperial powers (both France and Germany were and to some extent are). I guess we have a different history in general, though.
BTW, we deindustrialized in the last 25ish years, we were actually above Germany as an industrial power. So I don't think it's just economic dependency.
Italy did maintain colonies in parts of what today are Libya, Eritrea, Ethiopia and Somalia, among other places, albeit the Italian imperial project was comparatively short in both time and space.
Yes, I am aware. Despite the cruelty (especially in Eritrea) it was a parody of a colonial power, and I wouldn't call it an empire.
Fair enough. I couldn't tell from your original comment.
It was a fair shout, if anything because it is (for obvious reasons) a fairly unknown part of history. I remember my grandma telling me stories of vacationing in Tripoli when she was a kid, and her brother playing football (in the national team, according to her, will never know).
Ironically the idea of "protectorate" is still somewhat alive, which is funny because in another thread in this post I am discussing about how Italian fascism does have ideas (vs being opportunistic).
Multiple Ceasars are spinning in their graves, at your first sentence. 🤣
That wasn't Italy that was something else Altogether but in the geographic area of italy, the real Italy we all know and love began in the 18th century as an effect of Napoleon's conquest then loss. Before that it was an geographic amalgation of principalities and kingdoms. All different currencies, armies, borders etc.
Never been an imperial power, aside from when we created the concept
At that time the concept of Italy didn't exist :) it barely exists now.