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I've feel like I've used Plex forever. I also feel like every couple years I try Jellyfin to see how it's going. Recently I tried it again because of Plex restriction on more than one user.

Well, I just tried it again and it's substantially improved! This time it actually properly detected most of my library!

Also the Android TV app is AWESOME! No more glitches, lagging, and freezing trying to play my stuff like Plex did. It is butter smooth.

Wow! I'm impressed and I just deleted Plex. Good riddance.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

You seem to have slipped from arguing that it was difficult and complicated to arguing that it’s bad

These are the same thing...

For one thing, it’s not illegal and I do rip my own media.

Soon as you share it over the Internet it is. You need a license from the IP holder to do that.

how is it possibly more difficult and complicated to have remote access ready to go than being “a DNS record away”?

  1. They're effectively the same.
  2. Plex forces you to use their way. It's more difficult because it's not the way most people would want to do it in a selfhost environment.

It does mix at least two sources (their unavoidable, rather intrusive free streaming TV stuff and your library), but it doesn’t demand that you set it up.

I mean yeah, it doesn't demand anything because it doesn't give you an option. lol

I don’t know, man, I’m not saying you shouldn’t prefer Jellyfin.

And I'm not saying that you should prefer Jellyfin. But to call Plex "easier" than jellyfin is verifiably an incorrect statement--which is what I've been saying since the beginning here. The way Plex forces you to do things isn't easier at all.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 22 hours ago

I feel like this conversation does a very good job of explaining why FOSS alternatives so often have terrible usability. "Not how most people would do it in a selfhost environment" is effectively "not how a tiny, teensy, borderline irrelevant proportion of users would do it".

Selfhosting is moving towards being accessible to the average user in some areas. Not coincidentally, I suspect, mostly in areas where someone is trying to make money on the side (see Home Assistant increasingly trying to upsell you into their cloud subscription and branded hardware, for instance). This idea that structuring the software for the average phone user as opposed to the average home server admin is "bad" or "complicated" is baffling to me.

Oh, and for the record, no, that's not the line for legality when it comes to watching the media I own. I am perfectly within my rights to access the files in my hard drive in any way I want. At least where I live. I make no promises for whatever dystopian crap is legal in the US. If anything there is a gray area on my using a specific type of drive to be able to rip commercial optical media that is theoretically DRMd in ways that my drive just happens to ignore. But accessing my legal backups in my local storage? Nah, even if I was more worried about piracy than I am I'd feel fine on those grounds.

But also, copyright as currently designed is broken and not fit for purpose, and I suspect you don't disagree and your pearl clutching here may have more to do with disliking Plex and not wanting to acknowledge an actually useful feature they provide than anything else. Maybe I'm reading too much into that.