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Yeah, people think pitbulls are dangerous because of racism. ๐
EDIT: So. Many. Downvotes. But not a single comment refuting the statistics with facts and evidence... You're not flat-earthers, right? So don't act like them. Use your brain, not your feeeelings! I love dogs. All dogs. And yeah, if my dog was a Pittie, I would be defensive too, but I would also be honest that people need to take extra precautions...
Yeah, people think black men are dangerous because of racism. ๐
That's what you sound like, smh.
Disclaimer: I've not vetted the statistic I posted but seen similar numbers before.
Edit: As has been rightly pointed out the above statistic does not say what I thought it did. A better version would be:
This is tracking who died, not who fired the shot.
Jep, like I said did not look too closely into it. Anyway, the point is that taking statistics in a vacuum can lead to strange conclusions.
Btw the gist I was going for, that statistically black men make up a disproportionate chunk of the homicide perpetrators in the US is a fact.
Still misleading on its own as it does not give insight into the cause of the discrepancy. Racists use this all the time to justify bigotry.
The gist you actually provided was "you are doing a bad thing and I'm disappointed in you, smh" and then proceeded to do something very similar followed by a non-apology.
I actually agree with your point but it's still a shitty way to do it.
Something similar? I read a picture wrong going of a fact I've heard before.
I was just lazy I give you that. I did not double check but after someone pointed the mistake out I gave better numbers.
So how is that similar to what happened before? My main point wasn't that I distrust the numbers they are posting but the way it is not backed up with good explanations and/or potential causes.
Reading back this comment does come off as overly defensive but I am genuinely confused what I did that is similar and how I should've behaved better in the face of my error.
It's similar in that you presented a position that was not backed up by a reasonable interpretation of the data you also provided.
What you did was different, in that is was a brief misunderstanding of the wording rather than a fundamental misunderstanding of causation and correlation.
it didn't seem defensive as much as dismissive.
Honestly i could have just been reading tone in your response that wasn't there, i get that wrong more often than i would like, if so i apologise.
How do you know you have a weak argument? You post "evidence" that has no relevance to the discussion because you're so focused on your feeeelings you ignore facts and statistics.
Yes, I did not look too closely into the statistic in the picture but see my other comment where I provided a more relevant statistic.
You're getting downvoted but you're right, if it was a wealthy white people dog it wouldn't be banned everywhere.
Not a ton of latinos in the UK, and they're banned there.
Right that's why I phrased my comment the way I did. Depending on the area it might be perceived as a trailer trash dog, a dog poor black people have, or a Latino dog. Either way, plenty of other breeds just as risky, if not more risky, that people don't perceive the same way.