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Ukraine is hesitating to sign a U.S.-backed deal that would grant American companies access to 50% of its rare earth minerals in exchange for continued military support.

President Zelenskyy cited legal concerns and the lack of security guarantees.

The deal, pushed by Trump allies, aims to showcase Ukraine’s value to U.S. interests while reducing reliance on Chinese minerals.

However, Kyiv’s 2021 strategic partnership with the EU complicates negotiations, as European leaders resist surrendering shared resources to Washington. Talks remain ongoing.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Not being able to verify = there is no shown proof

[–] T00l_shed 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Not being able to verify=there is a war going on, but the data is coming from an otherwise reputable source, during a war. They felt confident in the data provided enough to speak to it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

an otherwise reputable source, during a war

Please explain to me how state propaganda is a reliable source during war

[–] T00l_shed 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Certain countries governments have a reputation, and are considered reputable. For example Germany, is generally considered a trust worthy source of information, the united states no longer is. See how that works? Just like with people, Einstein was generally reputable and trustworthy, and Asad wasn't.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

For example Germany, is generally considered a trust worthy source of information

Speak for yourself, Germany's coverage of the genocide in palestine is atrocious and there wasn't one German media that didn't replicate the "ghost of Kiev" news. You happen to trust Germany because you have a pro-western bias, Germany's information is as shit as that of the US.

Trusting a government source without further evidence on information about geopolitically charged topics is insane.

[–] T00l_shed 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

What does generally mean to you? Does it mean all the time with no errors or mistakes? The UN was taking Gazas death toll numbers as accurate despite not being able to verify all the time, I generally accepted the numbers coming from Gaza, although they were likely short. I happen to generally trust Germany because generally their information is accurate. If the UN (not Ukrainian btw) felt somewhat confident in the numbers to speak it to, then it's carries more weight. Tell me which "sources" would you trust?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I happen to generally trust Germany because generally their information is accurate

I highly distrust information from Germany as someone who lived there for 3+ years. There's a reason why there's also a wave of fascism over there.

Tell me which "sources" would you trust?

Primary sources providing evidence. Appeal to authority isn't enough evidence for me, evidence is. I didn't need to trust any particular sources that there was an ongoing genocide in Gaza because I could simply open up my phone and have 100 new different videos from that very day of kids being bombed from a variety of journalist outlets from different countries and social media accounts.

[–] T00l_shed 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Notice how in my previous comments I denied that it's a generalised thing, not that it didn't happen occasionally. For sure a few tens, or even hundreds, of children have been sent illegally to Russia. Hell, tens of thousands of civilians have probably been murdered unlawfully in the war. My point isn't that sporadic small-scale crimes don't happen during wars, my point is that there's no evidence of generalised mass deportation of children in Ukraine by the Russian forces.

Also, bringing in children to speak their atrocity propaganda to the UN reeks of Nayirah's testimony

[–] T00l_shed 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Well, once the war is over, and if the borders are put back to where they should be and someone can investigate it will be too late anyhow