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I want something that takes me straight to my destination so my hurting ass self doesn't have to walk far. Driven by me so I won't get motion sickness. With a trunk so I can put a bunch of crap in there and not have to carry it all the way back while walking and riding a goddamn train.
Oh, right, I want cars. Anything else is short-sighted and ableist. I'm sure you're going to hate me and mod me down and silence me and all sorts of crap for this viewpoint, but holy fuck, how do you not understand that this is a perfectly valid view? If you're special and can walk and carry tons of shit, good on you, I'm so proud of you. Many are not. And when you destroy the ability to drive and park somewhere in your urban "utopias" because they cater to your special ass, it screws US over.
Spoken like a true ableist. Fuck the blind, fuck the old, fuck kids. You want cars!
You can have one lane roads and a paid underground Mr fuck everyone that can drive. Cars take too much space and kill too many people.
Go visit a developed city, like Munich, see how even 70+ old can live perfectly well without using a car. They got carts to carry shit and good sidewalks.
They take up space because HUMANS TAKE UP SPACE. You tend to think of cars as automatons. This is your fucking fascist bent, right here. You dehumanize cars as something horrible and anti-human when it's human beings who drive them and benefit from them. Gives them FREEDOM. ACCESS. RIGHTS.
Just because you look at a small section of healthy 70+ year olds doesn't invalidate my point. "Look at these happy brown hair blue eyed white people, they're not being oppressed in Nazi Germany! What are you complaining about?"
Fascists.
I can't "dehumanize cars", cars are not humans, they are machines. Like airplanes, phones and tables, those are all machines, equipment to be used.
Cars take space, and the required infrastructure takes even more space. From roads, to parking space. Why should a road lane that can serve 20 drivers get priority over a side walk that can serve 200 people ? Why should everyone breath tire and break particular cus you wanna drive! Drive! Drive!?
Contrary to your jump to Nazi Germany, you were not eliminated. As I said, you get a road with one lane, with paid underground parking. Mobility is a right, 5 lane roads and football sized parking lots are not.
Also, cars don't give you FrEeDoM, it makes you dependent on limited resources. Oil drilling or limited metals and minerals for EVs. We can't build cars for everyone, there are not enough resources on earth for that. We can build high quality public transport for everyone and have enough resources left for the minority of cases where public transportation doesn't work (you ain't taking the bus to the hospital in an emergency).
Wait, but both can coexist. This post is only hoping to abolish the "cars as default" mentality as it says. And it's not even a utopian dream when many places have both options readily available and well-furnished. I think you're going off without need there. But honestly, valid points. Some people do need personal vehicles and it's good to aim for a comprehensive view of transportation.
You're right, not building society around your preferences and convenience is literal fascism and anybody who care about safety or the environment is just fundamentally evil. The cruelty is the point.
It is literal fascism. When you are intolerant towards a group of people, what else is that? Get in line with your fascist friends in the White House and oppress us all, or start realizing how fucking horrible you are and fix your attitude.
You sound like a Republican caricature of a progressive right now. Fascism is when other people don't give me exactly what I want.
Nah it's your attitude that will be hated and "modded down".
My attitude? Hating oppression isn't a bad thing. Look up the paradox of tolerance. You anti-car, pro-walking shitlords are opressing people with disabilities and other issues. And no, unlike some people claim, it's not about "coexistence". It's about TAKING OVER PUBLIC SPACES WITH YOUR ANTI-CAR PLANS.
You're just as bad as people like the Orange Turd and Elon Stark. Get over it and start realizing that what you're doing is, plain and simple, ableist. You're being intolerant. Plain and simple. If you are fine with being intolerant, get in line with the rest of the fascists and stop pretending.
I'm conflicted. This hilarious if it's trolling, but I don't want to laugh at somebody who's legitimately mentally ill.