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[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool 3 points 5 days ago (3 children)

STOP TELLING MY POOR ASS THAT CLIMATE CHANGE IS ON ME

every bit of conservation i do in my life is undone by a billionaire in a weekend. I am done being blamed for it and having the responsibility thrown at my feet. At this point the best way any one of us can do something meaningful is if we all pull a Luigi. But these memes and articles that put ask the climate change responsibility on the lower classes are nothing more than billionaire propaganda

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago

This Tweet isn't blaming you.

To me, this argument sounds like someone trying to justify their own littering because corporations don't dispose of their waste properly.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

This is a well established climate-change-laggard argument. It's the whataboutism logical fallacy.

Why should I take action, at great personal cost, when someone else is not taking action and will in fact benefit from my burden?

The Australian (and other) governments hide behind this same excuse. "Australia is just a small country, why should we take action when our CO2 production is just a small portion of that of other countries like China?".

I mean it's a good point, billionaires are worthy of great criticism, and Australia should be putting pressure on other countries, but at the same time we as individuals really do need to be taking action.

I do agree that polluting corporations use this narrative and I also find it infuriating. It's particularly palpable with plastic producers, as in plastic pollution is not their fault, but the fault of consumers failing to recycle. It's not the fault of consumers, it's the fault of regulators, who are elected by voters who are also consumers.

In summary, the whole thing is fucked and everyone sucks, but you still have to tidy up your own shit.

[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

GO TELL BILLIONAIRES ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE! I do not want to hear it anymore, it’s not my fault, it’s not my responsibility and I can do absolutely nothing to fix it. Stop telling poor people about climate change, that’s like yelling into a hole. Go after the ones doing it, and if you think telling you that billionaires and corporations are responsible for climate change is whataboutism, you’re brainwashed by the rich

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

How can we tell billionaires about climate change? By voting. Poor people vote.

[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

They don’t give a fuck about voting. Make their life miserable everywhere they go at the least, bust out the guillotines would be ideal.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I can't believe I have to say this but, us poor people need to elect representatives that will regulate the fuck out of billionaires. This might surprise you but plenty of poor people vote for representatives that will be mean to other poor people, rather than those who will regulate billionaires.

[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You still think you live in a country where those representatives exist or have a hope in hell of being elected. Bernie couldn’t even gain the support of one party, how would a progressive gain the entire country? You are far beyond the voting phase of things

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

Sadly I think you've missed my point.

[–] icecreamtaco 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

We are all drops of water that make up an ocean. Billionaires are important too but it's also the fault of lazy people who put old TVs on the sidewalk instead of ewasting them. Everyone's actions add up.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

You are downplaying scale. Drops of water can fall on a plant for years. Pour a one ton bucket on it and it's dead in 20 seconds. We are not all "drops" of water. I try to be environmentally conscious in my actions not because I believe it makes a real difference, but only to keep myself from being a hypocrite. The only thing different between a hypocrite and a billionaire is a pile of money.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

I still do my part, but it’s for my own integrity, not for saving the world.