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[–] [email protected] 6 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

Graphene is very nice, but you should be aware that:

  • the only supported hardware at present are pixel phones by google who are not the world’s most ethical company
  • google are implementing security policies on their devices that cannot be implemented on grapheneos and will prevent certain apps (notably banking ones) from working
[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

A) True, though I got an older model on sale. That said, it is a tradeoff. There is no ethical consumption under capitalism.

B) I'm an adhd caveman who came from a LightPhone II. It helps to have an appetite for mild annoyance when stepping outside the regular tech ecosystems.

Edit: Apologies for sounding defensive, wanted to share my personal experience and ended up simping for software. @rook is 100% right that options are slim and fiddly!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago

Thanks for the infos everyone!

I can live with mild annoyance, if it allows me to sufficiently separate things from Google. Banking apps and such could indeed be a pain point, but I could just put them on another device (e.g. old iPad, which I'm never really using anyway, so i could make it a special purpose device for "those few shitty apps that the world requires me to have"), since I never need that on the go on my phone anyway.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

google are implementing security policies on their devices that cannot be implemented on grapheneos and will prevent certain apps (notably banking ones) from working

That is concerning. Tbh, banking apps are probably the main reason I use a smartphone at all, because there's no way anymore, at least where I live, to get a TAN without their stupid apps since they have all deprecated SMS TAN. Some still sell you physical token generators for ridiculous prices, but that's going away, too.

And on the main topic of this thread: can Xwitter in general just fucking die already?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

I saw a toot recently showing a number of methods to deal with the general casual shit (such as checking whether something was installed from play store, etc). don't know if I stored the link, but might be worth a look around re the latter bits

(e: to be clear, not saying you're wrong for indicating those issues (which are entirely valid concerns), and all of this very much depends on whether user wants to even screw around with stuff. just mean to point out that there are definitely some workarounds and options kicking around, although personally nfi how extensive they solve)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

The thing that currently cannot be worked around is the “play integrity api”, but relatively few applications make use of it yet.

It is a terrible security measure (because it give the impression to app developers that a 5+ year old android installation that’s never had a patch is more secure than an up-to-date graphene install) so there’s a chance that it might be improved in future, but it is currently a looming problem.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 14 hours ago

ah yeah, I've heard of play integrity. that shit should burn.