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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I think this is partly about giving yourself an out for liking childish things as a near- or young-adult. Kids shows commonly do include some Parental Bonus but extending that idea specifically to dark undercurrent plots that you have to read between the lines of the text seems like a way to feel "in the know" about something adult in the work while still consuming something you feel society expects you to have grown out of.
Then with a bit more maturing than that, you can hopefully just embrace childish joys earnestly, because joys are precious.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I used to be very much into My Little Pony when that whole thing was big, and there was a tremendous amount of very dark fan theorisation and spinoff material.

I think what you say is correct in part, that it can make things less shameful, but I also think there's a simpler explanation - it's fun.

It's exactly because kids shows are so happy and non-threatening that these dark fan theories are so entertaining, because of the stark contrast between the theory and the source material. And so the darker it is, the better.

I mostly don't think people "believe" the dark theories are true, or in any way actually intended as subtext by the showrunners. People aren't "reading between the lines" so much as they are purely "making it up" - in ways that were never intended but feel somehow plausible. It's just a bit of fun.

MLP itself was a strange case, though, and got quite bizarre in the end. As the show went on, the writers and animators became increasingly aware they had unexpectedly developed a huge adult following, and some of the plot points that began purely as fan theories later became canon... but that's a whole different story....

[–] ElectroVagrant 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It's arguably layers of this cover behavior, and mostly as you say because it's fun. The first layer, closer reading and fan theorizing, is covering why they're into children's media or some other media that isn't seen as fitting them.

The second layer is entwined with the first, the fan theorizing is itself covering what some are too insecure to say or do outright, which is make fan fiction. Some may look down on making fan fiction in similar ways as they feel looked down on for what they're enjoying, making it somewhat ironic.

In short, don't let your fan theories remain theories, make fan fiction and your own independent, inspired work!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

This is the main reason, in my opinion. It also explains why most of these fan theories aren't very imaginative. People at that age haven't consumed enough actual darker material to know these concepts are overdone.

Something like Adventure Time is interesting because it wholly embraces this idea and dials it to 11.

Maybe a controversial opinion, but I think the problem with your modern blockbusters, especially in the Star Wars and Marvel universes, is that they can't decide where they lie on this transition point. They absolutely have that childish element, but too many people are afraid to accept that and take it too seriously. They can do both, they just need to be honest about it.