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So Zante was right.
It's clearly an ideology as well, which is what I was addressing. (Ideology/idolize)
Well no, it's clearly not. Like you said, it's a perjorative.
Two things can be true. By my word choice it is clear that "absolutely not" was directed at "ideology".
Edit How is it not? People believe in the actions of authoritarians larping as leftists. They further idolize their personalities.
That's not an ideology though, that's just you saying "they like people who I think are bad." That's like calling "woke" an ideology.
An ideology is defined as "a system of ideas and ideals, especially one which forms the basis of economic or political theory and policy."
As such, believing in, supporting the behavior of autocratic regimes, and their perverse, fucked up zombified corpse of a true leftist community is an ideology.
No, an ideology is defined as what your believe, not who you support.
I didn't invent the definition. They BELIEVE it's ok to do the things autocrats do. It's not a side effect or byproduct.
Ok, but that's hopelessly vague, anyone who supports anyone a person anyone considered an autocrat has the same ideology? So Lincoln supporters are tankies, Nelson Mandela supporters are tankies, Martin Luther King was a tankie, opponents of the Vietnam war are tankies, and based on your own support of actions taken by US Presidents, you're a subscriber to tankie ideology.
Again "liking someone you don't like" is not an ideology
Obviously not. Go do your own googling on the origins and common figures, regimes, eras, countries that align with the definition. I've shared my opinion, and even some info. I'm not obligated to educate you on the logical connections of labels and groups and ideas.
See, this is why I continue to conclude that "tankie" is just a pejorative for "person to the left of me. Because whenever someone who insists that's not what it means gives me their definition, and I try to apply it consistently, they instantly get huffy and essentially admit that they can't give a different definition that actually matches with how they use it, exactly as you've done here.
I have done my own googling and research, and my finding has been that the only consistent feature of things that get you called a tankie is that they are to the left of the anglosphere Overton window.