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[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 day ago (7 children)

No better time than the present to switch to OpenStreetMap

For Android, I use OsmAnd~ which uses OpenStreetMap data and allows you to download maps to calculate routes offline, something Google Maps couldn't do for routes by foot and by bike last time I tried.

It also has better coverage for some small paths in natural areas like forests. Give it a try!

[–] lupusblackfur 2 points 5 hours ago

👍 💯 💯 OsmAnd FTW

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

You're all welcome in [email protected] to discuss antying OSM-related.

The namechange of the Gulf has been discussed on our forum; how to deal with this has been decided in consensus.

And, obligated self-promo: if you want to start contributing to OSM, you can try https://mapcomplete.org/ (which is someting else then the StreetComplete app, but that one is nice too!)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

In OSM ″Gulf of America″ is added under official_name:en-US tag so if any app uses this tag to display names, it will show up.

Here is the link to OSM object for Gulf of Mexico. And here is a thread that discusses naming.

Any country/language can call any object as they want. This change of course was dumb and petty and doubt it will be adopted by other regions, but this is nothing new or special. Google Maps currently show ″Gulf of Mexico (Gulf of America)″ for me. When checking in another language it shows same naming standard.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago

Google Maps currently show ″Gulf of Mexico (Gulf of America)″ for me.

Same as me (Czech Republic, preferred language English). "Mexický záliv (Americký záliv)" in Czech.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 18 hours ago

Yeah OSMand and organic maps update their data sets once a month or so. I know this as when I first started contributing I checked the app 100x bummed that my contributions weren't there yet lol

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

The OsmAnd~ app, from fdroid, is the premium (and paid) version og OsmAnd, also known as OsmAnd+.

If you use the fdroid version, and enjoy the app, consider donating to the developers through other means.

[–] Anonymouse 5 points 1 day ago

I've been using it and evangelizing it for some time now. I don't have a data plan and it works. My data, location, preferences or anything is not sold to anyone.

It can be a little overwhelming at first. It can be difficult to use at times (the search isn't great), but in using it, I feel like I'm a part of something good and I can rest better knowing that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

Is using alternative maps even worth it if you have google's Android and location has to go through google play services anyways?

[–] a_g_dizzle 8 points 23 hours ago

It won’t prevent Google from tracking your location, but it might help support these alternative maps by increasing their popularity on the PlayStore and whatnot.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

you can use gps without play services.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 22 hours ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

adb shell pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.gms

adb shell pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.gsf

adb shell pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.ims

[–] [email protected] 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Disable "(improve) location accuracy" in settings and location history in Google settings (I think)

[–] ben_dover 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

google play services would still periodically query your location, even when on gps only. it's a privileged app so you can't even block it from doing so. MicroG (on lineageOS or calyxOS), or GrapheneOS' sandboxed play services can help with that

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago

you can simply uninstall play services. not even microG, and gps still works

[–] [email protected] 1 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Google Maps are pretty barebones, but at the same time reliable for general / basic use. Depends on region, but OSM usually will be more detailed. It is also possible your region has some local provider that is even better.

Google Maps in my region excel only for navigation quality for cars and search for commercial stuff (businesses and shops)

[–] ShotDonkey -5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

OsmAnd is a nightmare in terms of user experience! I dropped it 8 years ago because it was a horror. I gave it a try again last month because, you know, maybe people have done something about the useless navigation, the totally overpacked UI, the sluggish behaviour etc. Guess what? It's the same terrible (!) app it was 8 years ago!

FCK Google, but if that's all that there is as an alternative, well...

I use Magic Earth. It's not Open Source afaik but they claim they dont collect data (...🤔). I don't believe this so use these apps as little as possible.

Greetings, an open source enthousiast

[–] [email protected] 1 points 14 hours ago

Well, thanks for sharing the app, the most alternatives, the better!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Agree with you, OsmAnd is practically unusable for me due to the ancient UI. I hated it every time I used it.

I found Organic Maps to be a decent modern alternative. It's open source and uses data from openstreetmaps as well, but it's a million times less cluttered.