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[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Firefighters do not operate the means of production

Sure they do.

firefighters being paid well does not give workers control over their social and political futures, because firefighters are not a class that is large or influential enough to dictate the flow of their society's political and economic power structures.

Nor does any worker. That's part of the deal with a society where things are communally owned, you know, socialism. If you want an individual to be influential enough to dictate the flow of their society's political and economic power structures, you're looking for a rich capitalist.

You seem determined to try to come up with a way to pretend that clearly socialist parts of a mixed capitalist/socialist system are not socialist, while maintaining that the parts that are capitalist are still capitalist. You can't have it both ways.

[–] PugJesus 1 points 6 hours ago