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[–] galanthus -1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (21 children)

Not voting delegitimises the government and puts pressure on the political system. The minor benefits of that are not countered by any drawbacks if you are in the vast majority of states that are not swing states.

But my main point is: you have to develop a solid ideological viewpoint and act on it if you actually want your voice to be represented. If you just vote for the parties that you do not agree with because you feel like you have to you are actually not doing your "democraric duty" and instead are legitimising the government that does not represent your desires, thusly eroding democracy.

You can say, that if a lot of people thought this way and voted for, say, Jill Stein, or not at all, the Democrats would not win. To that I would say, why would I want them to win if I do not agree with their politics? But most importantly, if people were actually willing to stand their ground and at least try to hold politicians accountable and fight for political representation(of their views) you would not have the political fiasco you have now in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (6 children)

pressure on the political system

They literally only care about voters dude. They don't give a shit about non voters.

thusly eroding democracy

Even in a full, complete and true democracy, compromise is still the name of the game. The very nature of a collective people making government forces compromise. You will never not have to compromise, and compromise is not "erosion of democracy". Your entire premise is simply wrong; democracy is not just getting what you want.

[–] galanthus 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

Modern states derive their legitimiacy from the will of the people, so an election with low turnout is less legitimate than an election with higher turnout. This can be noticable when a very small amount of people votes. This is why they repeat that you have to vote, no matter for whom, this pro-voting propaganda is meant to legitimise the government.

It is you who are wrong about my position. Democracy is not getting what you want, it is the government following the will of the majority, which it does not because the democratic party has been supporting a largely unpopular genocide, and if you are against it, you have no way to have your view(which is popular) represented in the political system. The democrats don't give a shit what their voters want, they will vote for them anyway, for as long as they hate the other party more. But if the majority of people hates both parties/candidates, and votes for the one they hate less, this is not democracy.

Also, the democratic party sucks for many reasons, not just the recent Palestine development.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You want a bunch of people to suffer and die in addition to the people already doomed to suffer and die on the off chance we get a better world at the end of it.

If this is accurate (and I'd almost bet money that it is), you are evil and shouldn't be listened to.

[–] galanthus 1 points 1 day ago

No, I want all that to happen so that I can feel good about myself for not voting.

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