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Explanation for nonscientists here: https://bsky.app/profile/carlbergstrom.com/post/3lhmtolcc6s2c

Sorry that bsky isn't an official news source, but it hasn't been appropriately/fully reported by any standard news source yet. I've linked the formal announcement. The ramifications are only really clear to those in science.

This will decimate US universities, full stop. Billions of dollars in guaranteed funds have just been pulled.

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[–] iceonfire1 -1 points 1 week ago (5 children)

This isn't a cut (yet), it's a budgetary allocation requirement. It matches what is already required by most private non-profits.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

And those private nonprofit grants lose universities money: https://web.mit.edu/fnl/volume/295/zuber.html

I posted the actual NIH announcement. Clearly I'm in science. Please don't parrot statements about which you clearly have no understanding.

[–] iceonfire1 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

If my statement was wrong, feel free to correct it. But based on reading the article, this change is not a "cut" to grants as you indicated in your title.

Will this change cause significant disruption? Almost certainly. But there's an argument to be made for the change, namely that NIH grants should support the science rather than the university and that university overhead costs should be subsidized in some other way.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

The science becomes significantly harder to do when the overhead costs can’t be met. The science doesn’t happen in a vacuum.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

For any new grant issued, and for all existing grants to IHEs retroactive to the date of issuance of this Supplemental Guidance, award recipients are subject to a 15 percent indirect cost rate.

From the NIH announcement.

My university is slated to lose eight digits in budgeted and contractually obligated F&As. Virtually every university is gearing up to sue to NIH if NIH tries to withhold these contractually obligated funds like they say they're going to.

F&As cover things like hazardous waste disposal. Maybe to cut costs, we can just dump our hazardous chemicals in your backyard.

[–] iceonfire1 1 points 1 week ago

Thanks for the quote, but it's still not a cut to the grant itself.

Believe it or not, I also think university research depts should continue to exist and that major budget shortfalls due to this are not in our best interest.

Hope your abrasive remarks are making you feel better.

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