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Behold, a Linux maintainer openly admitting to attempting to sabotage the entire Rust for Linux project:

https://lwn.net/ml/all/[email protected]/

The good news is this doesn't affect drm/asahi, our GPU driver. The bad news is it does affect all the other drivers we're (re)writing in Rust, two so far with a third one coming.

Another choice quote, calling R4L "cancer": https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/[email protected]/

Personally, I would consider this grounds for removal of Christoph from the Linux project on Code of Conduct violation grounds, but sadly I doubt much will happen other than draining a lot of people's energy and will to continue the project until Linus says "fuck you" or something.

As for how to move forward, if I were one of the Rust maintainers, I would just merge the patch (which does not touch code formally maintained by the dissenter). Either Linus takes the pull, and whatever Christoph says is irrelevant, or he doesn't, and R4L dies. Everything else is a waste of everyone's time and energy.

Edit: Sent in my 2 cents: https://lore.kernel.org/rust-for-linux/[email protected]/T/#m1944b6d485070970e359bbc7baa71b04c86a30af

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

You know as someone so far removed from kernel development as I am I have to say that Rust devs are the most annoying fanboys there are and ngl if this kills R4L I won't even notice aside from those drama threads dissappearing. Just write your own Kernel in Rust if you must. With Blackjack and Hookers.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 12 hours ago

To me it feels like it's the other way around.

I wasn't even aware that people tried to establish multi-language drivers until I read about the cancer comment some time ago.

It's not the first time that longstanding maintainers dislike new stuff because it's new.

[–] Uncut_Lemon 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

My feelings exactly. Somehow Linux has managed to achieve so much with C. And running on all the major cloud providers, running missing critical apps. Shit we have Linux and BSD in space, running long term missions successfully.

The rust cult constantly seems to demand integration with the Linux kernel and being toxic about it, while actually contributing very little to achieve the interoperability, demanding the kernel Devs sort it out, or else...

I'm not a dev, it's just how a lot of this drama reads.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

The R4L devs are literally saying (and have been for years at this point) that the c devs do not need to touch a single line of rust nor maintain any part of the integrations. So it’s quite backwards from what you’re saying. Specific c devs are complaining for no reason.