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[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

If the crux of your argument is based on an ethical or moral judgement you open yourself to whataboutisms. Otherwise any time any one brings up hypocritical behavior it would be a fallacy.

On the other hand, if you simply observe a fact, like this censorship, people who bring up a whataboutism are actually engaging in strawmanning.

Tl;Dr whataboutisms are a disputed fallacy and it quite frankly probably depends on context and motivation for whether it counts

My personal guideline is when it's being used as a defense or excuse instead of a refutation of a claim (explicit or implicit) of moral or ethical superiority.

[–] Duamerthrax 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The fuck are you going on about? All I'm saying is is that the only reason you might hear about [topic x] in a thread about [topic y] is people deflecting.

Want to complain about American censorship? Make a new post. Plenty of things to complain about now. You'll see plenty of the same people,