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https://lemmy.ml/comment/16430292

Brave take at the top of the screenshot which was then flooded by minions of the grad.

I tried to not post any Cowbee because it was too easy but you're welcome to check out the thread and post your own findings.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

What you call communism and what MLs call communism is usually different things. For them a state bureaucracy with wage labor below it is perfectly capable of being considered "stateless". It's quite absurd really.

But ML methods never create a stable socialist system. They all inevitably collapse into Capitalism proper.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I’ve heard this claim but only from critics. Is there somewhere I can find it from a ML writer? While I have heard some debate about what exactly stateless means from within anarchist thinkers, all were at least dramatically deconstructed compared to modern states. It’s hard to imagine how anyone could consider the idea of a stateless bureaucracy to be intellectually serious.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I hear they PM'd you. Did argue for that position adequately then? :D

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

I was sick so I didn’t reply lol but now that I’m better I may go back and ask.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

@[email protected] believes so and usually can argue at length about it. You can see if they're in the mood to elaborate.