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[–] Gorilladrums 64 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Mastadon, Searx, Fediverse, and so on aren't killing or replacing the sites they're modeled after, not even close. They're just providing a privacy focused alternative for those who don't want to whored out by corporations or abused by powermods or shitty business decisions

[–] itsJoelle 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This response isn't meant to be argumentative, I'm just learning:

Isn't the fredieverse have the issue of being not very private at all? Aren't our up votes public? Is our viewing history freely available to those that maintain an instance?

[–] Gorilladrums 6 points 11 months ago (3 children)

They're private in the sense that there isn't a corporation stealing your data without your knowledge, selling it without your consent, whoring you out for ads against your will, and/or making your experience shittier to manipulate you into buying their paid features. These alternatives offer a much more pure experience for the typical user. Things like comment and vote history being public is just a part of the design of the forum, they're not tools to farm your data.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Is that true though? Any given instance could be running their own data collection.

[–] Gorilladrums 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They could, but they're pretty much guaranteed to not be as bad as the big corporations because they lack the resources and know how. The fact that you could also host your own instance is a huge plus considering that you could basically ensure that your data won't get collected.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Even if you're self-hosting, you still have to send your data to any instance hosting posts or comments you're interacting with, otherwise you'll be the only person to ever see your own posts and comments.

No other instance will be guaranteed to have a complete profile of you, though.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

A corporation can still be "stealing" your data without your knowledge if info is public, it's called Scraping

[–] itsJoelle 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Things like comment and vote history being public is just a part of the design of the forum,

Or, to check my understanding, make the structure of the Frediverse actually work, right?

[–] Gorilladrums 1 points 11 months ago

Lemmy is basically just a decentralized clone of reddit. A public profile containing comments, posts, upvotes, and the like are considered an integral part of the Reddit experience. I personally don't like it as a feature, but that's why it exists.

[–] jungekatz -2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No one said they are killing or replacing them , I moved to fediverse becuase the govt cant bully them into censoring certain content that was being removed from major SMs in my country

[–] Ignacio 1 points 11 months ago

No one said

The post portrays the grim reaper killing them and is titled "the decentralized web is growing"