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Context: Google "Philly Plane Crash"

Just happened like a hour ago

Condolences to the victims πŸ˜“

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Its a Learjet, which is now bought by Bombardier. The other plane crash earlier this week was also a Bombardier. Coincidence? πŸ€”

We might have another contender to the role of "Worst Plane Manufacturer"

Edit: To be fair, the other incident also involved a helicopter, we don't know which was at fault, and it could be pilot error, rather than mechanical failure.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Respectfully, for the DCA incident, a military helicopter LITERALLY RAMMED INTO A JET THAT WAS 4 SECONDS FROM LANDING. There was no mechanical error.

The consensus on r/aviation is that it was the helicopter pilot's error, and it was a long time coming with the near-misses that have happened at that airport. Considering a lot of the people on that subreddit are actual pilots/military people/have access to ATC chatter, I'm gonna trust their opinions more.

I don't usually recommend going to reddit, but the r/aviation megathreads after the Jeju Air crash and then these two incidents were very informative. Plus the mods + community work very hard to keep away ignorant comments and conspiracy nuts.

[–] passiveaggressivesonar 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

So now we open into individual responsibility vs collective responsibility, the FAA and NTSB are the regulation bodies to force airlines and airports to fix these issues, but that's big government regulation

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Absolutely, something some people in the r/aviation megathread were discussing as well. Quite a few of them stated they hated takeoff/landing at DCA specifically because it's probably the busiest airspace in the world, and there is always military crafts in that airspace.

The big friction seems to be that there is a big military base right on the other side of the Potomac that has a lot of VIP air traffic as well as training flights in an overlapping corridor to the commercial flights. I'm not sure how the politics interplay between the military and the DCA authority there, but it can't have been easy to work ATC.

Again, that sub is always very informative. Helps alleviate my fear of flying quite a bit LOL.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Actually found the thread I was reading regarding what the opinion is on the FAA's role. Quite a few angry comments in there about how it's a systemic issue.

NSFW Warning: The post that thread is on is video captured of the moment of collision. Also reddit link.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Could you explain like I’m an idiot how the Bomardier CRJ colliding with a UH60 was the a mechanical or design fault with the Bombardier CRJ? This is an interesting and unique take that I haven’t heard before and I want you to explain it more.