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[–] MothmanDelorian -1 points 7 hours ago (17 children)

The elected leader in a democratic republic like the USA cannot stop candidates from running without becoming a dictator. This is intro level poli sci stuff.

There is a difference between permitting states to decriminalize cannabis and electoral interference.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago (16 children)

They actually can, it's called doing their job and charging the individual with high crimes against the US that they've committed. There's no difference between a presidential candidate and a citizen.

[–] MothmanDelorian -1 points 6 hours ago (15 children)

No it isn’t. It is inappropriate for any candidate to utilize their office to prevent opposition. That is how authoritarian societies work not democratic republics. You should have been taught this in secondary/high school (ages 14-18 if you aren’t American).

How would you react if Trump had banned Bernie Sanders ir Biden from running in 2020 over perceived charges? Do you not see how easily misused that power would be?

The DOJ lead by the USAG should handle the prosecution without input from POTUS. That is what happened.

What you are suggesting is the kind of clownish fantasy that would get you laughed out of any courtroom. That’s how failed democracies work. That is not how systems should work. You are literally advocating corruption.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

The norms you're citing are all perfectly correct - but no democracy can survive if these norms are able to protect literal traitors. The fact that a coup was attempted should have resulted in swift and frightfully intense penalties for all involved. Unhung traitors poison republics.

[–] MothmanDelorian 0 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, and the list of people who dropped the ball on that prosecution does not and cannot include his political opponent.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Ceding your point for the sake of discussion, if that is a single point of failure for, in the emerging situation, the entire government, shouldn't we have been talking about reforms? This whole notion of a democratic republic whose existence is predicated on norms is easily destroyed by one weirdo.

I don't have all the answers, but at least tell me you see how fragile it all is. The most powerful country in history should not be designed to resist traitorous elements this weakly.

[–] MothmanDelorian 0 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

The DOJ, Congress and the courts all should have stopped this. The fact is a HUGE chunk of America knows fuckall about the government or how governing works (Lemmy is no exception). The public chose fascism.

[–] horse_battery_staple 0 points 19 minutes ago

The public chose fascism.

The Electoral College chose fascism. For all your pedantry you lose points on precision.

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