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Who to ban and who to not (lemm.ee)
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Edit: I've gone and done it. This won't be a common occurrence but I think it is necessary for some users. Hopefully this won't bite me in the ass lmao. Thanks for helping everyone!

Hey everyone. On privacy I generally recognize a lot of people, most are good. But occasionally I encounter someone who I've seen say horrible shit. This is about one:

Mainly they've said some incredibly racist shit, including about my race >:(. Of course I'd ban them, but they said all of this outside the community. I feel it's odd to ban people I don't like for their behavior outside the community.

I've gone pretty lax modding, only banning if you said really shitty stuff only on my community. But I don't want to build a community filled with these types of people.

I also don't want the community to have a bad reputation of banning people I don't like but this guys a known racist.

I'm feeling very conflicted, can anyone help?

PS: the things he said was about Arabs being murderers and rapists. And some racism to Slavs too

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I feel it’s odd to ban people I don’t like for their behavior outside the community.

My 2 cents is that one moderates what happens in a community, not what happens in the world outside it.

I also don’t want the community to have a bad reputation of banning people I don’t like but this guys a known racist.

I don't know yours, but I would quit a community where mods would decide it's their duty to police the world.

There are many people I do not like, even a few I despise, but that's just my feelings and emotions and my feelings don't grant me any right to punish them in any way. Edit: unless they do something in the community I moderate that does not respect the community rules, obviously. But the key idea here is they must do it in the community, what they do elsewhere is none of my business.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Counterpoint: I do ban people who display that kind of behavior elsewhere. It's more of a precautionary "Don't bring that shit here".

Think of it like each community is a bar/club on the same street. The bouncer out front sees the same person going from club to club acting all drunk and obnoxious and causing problems. I feel it's that bouncer's right to deny entry into my club when they're fully aware that the same obnoxious drunk is being problematic elsewhere.

So, I'm not policing the world, just observing it. And sometimes I see things in the world that are best kept out. Mind you, this isn't because they say things I disagree with personally. It's patterns of behavior and general toxicity that, if/when they do bring that here, will be a problem.

Just my two cents.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's also what I was concerned about. Thanks for your input :)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You're welcome.

BTW, it's also clear that it can be difficult to not react when facing an asshole of some sort, but I think that's one of the main thing that make us different from them: our ability to not let our emotions dictate our (re)actions. That doesn't mean we should like them, not even a little bit ;)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah, I mainly posted due to this guy practically being a white supremacists and saying my race are murderers and rapists. I'll just report to the instance instead of just banning them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

That's what would do.