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cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/53805638

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (12 children)

I did. The answer it gave is clear and concise with no judgement. Instead it talks about the argument on both sides. Not the "magical Hasbara dance" you promised me.

Try asking Deepseek about Taiwan independence and watch how it completely ignores all (/think) and gives a false answer.


The question of whether Israel is currently committing genocide is a subject of intense debate among international organizations, scholars, and political entities.

Accusations of Genocide:

Amnesty International's Report: On December 5, 2024, Amnesty International released a report concluding that Israel is committing genocide against Palestinians in the Gaza Strip. The report cites actions such as killings, causing serious bodily or mental harm, and deliberately inflicting conditions calculated to bring about the physical destruction of Palestinians in Gaza.

UN Special Committee Findings: In November 2024, a UN Special Committee found that Israel's methods of warfare in Gaza are consistent with characteristics of genocide, noting mass civilian casualties and widespread destruction.

Scholarly Perspectives: Israeli historian Amos Goldberg has stated that the situation in Gaza constitutes a genocide, pointing to the extensive destruction and high civilian death toll as indicative of genocidal intent.

Counterarguments:

Israeli Government's Position: The Israeli government asserts that its military actions in Gaza are aimed at dismantling Hamas, a group designated as a terrorist organization by multiple countries, and emphasizes efforts to minimize civilian casualties.

Criticism of Genocide Accusations: Organizations such as the American Jewish Committee (AJC) reject the genocide label, arguing that Israel's actions are self-defense measures against Hamas and do not meet the legal definition of genocide.

Legal Definition of Genocide:

According to the UN's 1948 Convention on Genocide, genocide includes acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial, or religious group. These acts encompass killing members of the group, causing serious bodily or mental harm, and deliberately inflicting conditions calculated to bring about the group's physical destruction.

Conclusion:

The determination of whether Israel's actions constitute genocide involves complex legal and factual analyses. While some international bodies and scholars argue that the criteria for genocide are met, others contend that Israel's military operations are legitimate acts of self-defense. This remains a deeply contentious issue within the international community.

[–] emmy67 1 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

Looks like the Hasbara dance to me. Anything to not give a clear or concise answer

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

You're expecting an opinion. It's an AI chatbot. Not a moral compass. It lays out facts and you make the determination.

[–] emmy67 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

AI chatbots do not lay out facts

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Well, that's the intent at least. Not to form an opinion.

[–] emmy67 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

If you're of the idea that it's not a genocide you're wrong. There is no alternate explanation. If it were giving a fact that would be correct. The fact that it's giving both sides is an opinion rather than a fact.

If their ibtebtion was fact only. The answer would have been yes

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

You're arguing with an AI. It's a computer. It doesn't have an opinion. It gives perspective on both sides and you determine an answer. Just because you have more conviction it doesn't make the AI formulate an opinion.

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