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    cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/24850430

    EDIT: i had an rpi it died from esd i think

    EDIT2: this is also my work machine and i sleep to the sound of the fans

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    [–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    Many selfhosters are also homelabbers

    [–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)
    [–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    Homelab = I have a bunch of computers I experiment and learn with, often breaking stuff and starting from scratch

    Self-host = I have a bunch of computers where I run my own email service, I replaced Netflix with plex/jellyfin, I have a Minecraft server for my friend group, etc

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Thanks! I am still pretty inexperienced so I'm inadvertently doing both at the same time with the same few machines haha

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

    That's the thing, it's pretty typical to have both and do both at the same time! You just have some machines more stable so you don't wipe your photos when you break k8s.

    [–] bisby 1 points 1 day ago

    The first few years of self hosting tend to have a lot of experimentation, so the overlap is natural.

    I'm hitting my grumpy old man phase of self-hosting where I want my Minecraft server and Jellyfin to to be stable so I don't have to hear about it from my family. So ironically, my setup is starting to look more like an overkill setup because I want to self host with stability instead of tinkering around to see if I can run a different server distro, etc. My home lab years got me to find a real nice base, but now I just add things to that base and I don't mess with the formula I have.

    IMO the distinction is that if you are doing it for fun (or education) and could afford to lose any service you run for an extended period, you're home labbing. If you are doing it for cost savings, privacy, anti-capitalist, or control reasons and the services are critical and need to stay up, you're self-hosting.

    tl;dr - experimentation vs utility

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    I don't know if I can completely explain the difference, but I would classify myself as a home labber not a self-hoster.

    I use Proton for email and don't have any YouTube/Twitter/etc alt front ends. The majority of my lab (below) is storage and compute for playing around with stuff like Kubernetes and Ansible to help me with my day job skills. Very little is exposed to the Internet (mostly just a VPN endpoint for remote lab work).

    I view self-hosting as more of a, "let me put this stuff on the internet instead of of using a corporation's gear" effort. I know folks who host their own Mastodon instance, have their own alt front ends for various social media, their own self-hoster search engines.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

    Thanks this makes sense!

    I think I'm somewhere in between the two. I'm still pretty inexperienced so I might say I'm self hosting through my homelab as I expect to screw something up any day now haha. So far so good though