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"So ultimately, I feel like what we’re saying is that in order for Starfleet and that beautiful vision that Roddenberry had of this optimistic utopia, in order for that vision to exist, in order for the light to exist, you need people who operate in the shadows."

Alex Kurtzman continues to prove that he fundamentally does not understand the property that he's helming, yet again making me want to puke

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[–] EarMaster 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I understand that he thinks he has to do something different. That lies in the nature of storytelling. Hardly any author likes telling the same story again and again in the same way. It is the same thing nobody seems to understand when there is a reboot or remake of an old movie or show (but that's another story). But I also have to strongly disagree that doing something different means doing it like every other drama series. Lower Decks of all things has shown that the original idea of Star Trek not only holds up but even transcends to other genres very well.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Absolutely. Ideological consistency =/= stagnation; my two favorite pieces of Trek are The Voyage Home and the Dominion War arc, and while they may not share almost anything on the surface, their core thrusts are wholly aligned!

The fundamental lack of understanding of the purpose and point of Trek as an idea that Kurtzman et al have consistently demonstrated clearly illustrates not simply a schism in taste, but one of worldview, politics, and values.

These guys just wanna be making Star Wars - and there ain't anything wrong with that! It's just that Star Wars and Star Trek are for, and accomplish, different things!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I really think we need another reference point - I wouldn't say any of the "new" series seem particularly like Star Wars, aesthetically or tonally.

I also don't think Star Wars should have a monopoly on certain types of storytelling, but that's neither here nor there.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I guess what I mean by Star Wars is they want to be doing what Disney+ is doing; serialized Cinematic Universe that's all boom boom pow pow?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

That's what the Kelvin Timeline was supposed to be about, yet they choose to bring this style to the prime timeline with Discovery instead of keeping it contained...