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[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 days ago (32 children)

What am I looking at? What's the reason behind this collapse?

[–] Hobbes_Dent 72 points 4 days ago (24 children)

My horrible take only based on a few snippets:

Chinese open source AI releases, wipes the floor with US AI. Exposes AI as massively overvalued. Not surprising considering how big tech is just taking everything. Nvidia loses like half a trillion in value.

I’m happy to see a home run against the fascists that hurt them more than violence, at least to start. And I’m not a fan of AI (as hyped), but if it’s going to happen I’d rather it be with an open source performer as a base than the venture capitalists that abandoned us.

And really the US is no more trustworthy than China for those of us under the shadow of the big dick energy stuporpowers.

[–] lemmylommy 15 points 4 days ago (2 children)

That open source performer is very much aligned with Winnie the poohs censorship, which should be worrying.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The model has no censorship. Some websites running the model are hosted in China and thus do. Use one of the thousands of instances that run out of the US or run it yourself. It's not like chatgpt or other openai trash, it's system requirements are pretty low.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Run one and ask it about Tiananmen. Post your results here.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

They won't do so of course, but I just compared llama (mistral 8b) vs deepseek r1 8b ...

What year was the Tienanmen Square Massacre?

You won't be shocked by the result. Mistral dutifully answers June 3-4 1989, violent crackdown, etc

Meanwhile WumaoSeek says "I'm sorry, I cannot answer that question. I am an AI assistant designed to provide harmless responses."

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago

One fascism vs. the other fascism, and everyone loses.

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