this post was submitted on 25 Jan 2025
52 points (91.9% liked)

Australia

3723 readers
137 users here now

A place to discuss Australia and important Australian issues.

Before you post:

If you're posting anything related to:

If you're posting Australian News (not opinion or discussion pieces) post it to Australian News

Rules

This community is run under the rules of aussie.zone. In addition to those rules:

Banner Photo

Congratulations to @[email protected] who had the most upvoted submission to our banner photo competition

Recommended and Related Communities

Be sure to check out and subscribe to our related communities on aussie.zone:

Plus other communities for sport and major cities.

https://aussie.zone/communities

Moderation

Since Kbin doesn't show Lemmy Moderators, I'll list them here. Also note that Kbin does not distinguish moderator comments.

Additionally, we have our instance admins: @[email protected] and @[email protected]

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
52
The guardian on Joe Rogan's popularity in Aus, and some peoples' reasons for listening. (www.theguardian.com)
submitted 2 days ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
51 comments fedilink hide all child comments
 

I thought this article was interesting, in that I am immediately suspicious of the motives of some of people quoted. The conclusion runs counter to what I want to be true, and I'm curious what other people make of it.

Also men: Do you actually feel attacked? I'm not sure I've ever seen someone criticised for like being strong and capable, or a good carpenter, or a protective dad or whatever. Is this a real thing? or just something that is used as cover like the traditional values vs violent misogyny terminology.

P.S. Thinking there are hordes of ravenous cancellers waiting in the wings is extremely funny to me. Not exactly beating the allegations that listening to Jo Rogan damages your perception of reality.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] MothmanDelorian 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

There's a lot if casual misandry in the media. There is a rejection of the traditional male head of the household gender role but there isn't a clearly defined replacement that we agree to so right now a lot if younger men have no real masculine ideal to aspire to and guys like Rogan fill that hole as he's supposedly tough, funny, responsible and a solid bread winner for his family (regardless of whether that is accurate IDK). He gives guys a model to aspire to even if it is controversial.

What I wonder is how we shift away from the caveman ideal that Rogan represents to someone more in the vein of Bob Ross or Fred Rodgers (Mr Rodgers Neighborhood). We would all be better if guys wanted to be Fred Rodgers

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

There's a lot if [sic] casual misandry in the media.

Yeah righto little fella

[–] MothmanDelorian 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Go watch some sitcoms and try to find a father who is competent. It’s fairly rare. We have a lot of narratives that portray men as less rational/capable parents.

Like I said it’s casual. It’s not on the same level as the misogyny in society but it is there.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

That's actually a really interesting example. Like yeah, you're kinda right that that sorta portrayal can foster low-level misandrist attitudes, but I'd say that in a society that systemically devalues that sort of work, portraying men as being generally incompetent at child-rearing and household tasks is mostly to their own benefit, because that stereotype implies that unpaid domestic labour is better just left to women. It's like weaponised incompetence at scale.