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The guardian on Joe Rogan's popularity in Aus, and some peoples' reasons for listening. (www.theguardian.com)

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I thought this article was interesting, in that I am immediately suspicious of the motives of some of people quoted. The conclusion runs counter to what I want to be true, and I'm curious what other people make of it.

Also men: Do you actually feel attacked? I'm not sure I've ever seen someone criticised for like being strong and capable, or a good carpenter, or a protective dad or whatever. Is this a real thing? or just something that is used as cover like the traditional values vs violent misogyny terminology.

P.S. Thinking there are hordes of ravenous cancellers waiting in the wings is extremely funny to me. Not exactly beating the allegations that listening to Jo Rogan damages your perception of reality.

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[–] MothmanDelorian 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Go watch some sitcoms and try to find a father who is competent. It’s fairly rare. We have a lot of narratives that portray men as less rational/capable parents.

Like I said it’s casual. It’s not on the same level as the misogyny in society but it is there.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

That's actually a really interesting example. Like yeah, you're kinda right that that sorta portrayal can foster low-level misandrist attitudes, but I'd say that in a society that systemically devalues that sort of work, portraying men as being generally incompetent at child-rearing and household tasks is mostly to their own benefit, because that stereotype implies that unpaid domestic labour is better just left to women. It's like weaponised incompetence at scale.