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Pope Francis criticized Donald Trump's mass deportation plans, calling them "a disgrace" that unfairly punish vulnerable individuals.

Speaking on an Italian talk show, Francis argued such measures fail to solve underlying issues and conflict with principles of justice and inclusion.

He also congratulated Trump on his inauguration, urging him to promote a just society free of hatred and exclusion.

U.S. Catholic leaders echoed the pope's concerns, citing Catholic teachings on protecting human dignity and welcoming migrants, despite national security challenges.

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[–] [email protected] -3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Right... That's the point. They (the Holy See, and thus Vatican City)... Being squarely set in restrictions... is complaining when a country with MUCH LESS restrictions on citizenship acts...

If the Vatican Cities rules were applied to the USA today. It would be a literal shit show, and significantly worse.

That's my point. He has no room to talk. He's blowing hot air up everyone's asses to make himself look better when he is significantly worse. The "old world" is de facto more restrictive, and Vatican City is significantly worse than that.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (2 children)

If you were born on the Google campus, would you expect them to give you citizenship? A job?

...Vatican City is not a state like any other, it's a pet protectorate of Italy. Don't compare a tiny speck of land with one of the biggest countries in the world, a country whose economy is reliant on the immigrants it wants to expel now. All that does is create a situation where employers can extort workers by saying "what's the phone number of ICE, again"?

[–] [email protected] -3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Vatican City issues it's own passports. It is sovereign.

And none of what you said excuses them for having policies that are much more restrictive than the USA, just to turn around and "holier than thou" the USA on policies.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago

If the Vatican was the size of the US I very much doubt they would have the policies they do.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

It's also a country which can only be accesses by passing through Italy first.

It's such a bad argument to compare immigration policies like this (I.e., I agree with you).

However, we could look at the amount of homeless people left around st. Peter's. Those could be helped even without immigration, and it's not done.

[–] Infinitus 6 points 14 hours ago

How? By housing them in the vatican museum? The vatican is smaller than an averege American Walmart. It's already crowded, housing the most important nursery home in the catholic world, while also taking in millions of tourist every year. There is no space in the Vatican.