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This week’s “breakthrough” in ceasefire negotiations to end the genocidal campaign against Gaza came, according to regional sources, after a single intervention by US president-elect Trump’s designated envoy Steve Witkoff in which he ordered Netanyahu's government to capitulate.

While we might be skeptical of Trump’s habit of claiming credit for any progress, it was corroborated by the far-right members of the Netanyahu government erupting into the kind of tantrum for which they are now world-famous, framing the deal as a disaster imposed on "Israel" by the incoming administration.

In the aftermath of Operation Al-Aqsa Flood, Biden, while parroting "Israel’s" atrocity propaganda about beheaded infants in ovens, gave Netanyahu a carte blanche to declare total war on the people of Gaza. As the unique scale of the atrocities in the Strip became clear, Biden proceeded, through his spineless UN ambassador Linda Thomas-Greenfield, to provide diplomatic cover for the genocide at the Security Council.

In June, Biden lied that a ceasefire deal had finally been reached, that it was at the initiative of the Netanyahu government, and that the Israeli leadership had accepted it. Secretary of State Antony Blinken clownishly trumpeted this falsehood, along with the claim that the only impediment to the ceasefire was Hamas’ refusal of its terms. It was well known at the time to be a lie, but the breakthrough of the last week confirms it beyond all doubt.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (6 children)

The POTUS doesn't need to "negotiate" with Israel: Israel relies on the USA for its existence. If Biden told them "stop it" and they refused, he would have cut support and forced them to stop it.

But he didn't, because he is a fanatical supporter of Israel.

But of course you've already had this explained to you multiple times, your brain just refuses to accept it because it's been completed fucking broken by your team losing the election and it's in full on cope mode.

[–] BrokenGlepnir -2 points 15 hours ago (5 children)

Israel couldn't have gone until the election without him? I don't know how much they have in store, but I assumed it was significant. Maybe I'm wrong there. They probably wouldn't have gone as hard, but there was no guarantee they would stop. There is certainly something different about trump saying stop it and Biden saying it. Are you assuming it's that Trump attached it to shipments? I don't know what is different myself. It could be several things. I'm not discounting the possibilities. He says it's his manly voice, and while that drips with sarcasm, I mean it could be? Maybe bidens a wimp and that was the difference. But... I'm also not discounting possibilities that disagree with that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (4 children)

No, they could not. TRUMP COULD NOT FORCE THE BIDEN ADMIN TO KEEP SUPPORTING ISRAEL.

You're being deliberately stubborn now, I've explained this multiple times to you. Clearly there is no helping people like you who have fully practiced Qanon style conspiracy theory.

[–] BrokenGlepnir -2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I didn't say that again. The all capital thing, I did not say that. I didn't say that Trump forced Biden to support anyone.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Yes. You did.

But I'm done indulging your willful playing dumb. For a year now, blueMaga liberals like you have insisted that just because you refuse to acknowledge obvious facts, the rest of us can't either. Clearly it costing them an election has only caused them to double down.

[–] BrokenGlepnir -2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe I implied that? I didn't mean to. Where did I say that. But the conspiracy theory you are referring to isn't that it forced joe Biden to send weapons (and yes he's a piece of shit for doing it, it's immoral). At least I don't know where I said that specifically (if trump calls someone I don't know how that forced joe Biden to do anything)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 13 hours ago

Was I not clear that I'm not going to indulge your willful playing dumb anymore?

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