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Middle East Eye is being quite deceptive here. It's interesting they don't give Starmer's full quote, only snippets that they framed in a certain way.
Here's what was actually said by Starmer:
When he said "lives lost" he was talking about people from Israel and Palestine, not just Palestine, you can see that in the quote.
When he said "They" we was talking about the citizens of both Israel and Palestine. You can see that in the quote.
He said that Hamas committed a massacre on the 7th of October - which is literally and unambiguously correct. They attacked indiscriminately at a music festival. You can see that in the quote.
I'm so tired of people equating Hamas and Palestine. They are not the same thing no matter what Middle East Eye says. It's very possible to stand with the people of Palestine, as I do, while also hating a terrorist institution that is based there. Frankly I think the view that Hamas and Palestinian are the same thing is racist.
We don't automatically class Irish as being IRA, so why are some insistent that we do that with Hamas and Palestinians? It's perfectly reasonable to dislike Hamas, given that they are literally a terrorist group.
This entire article completely misrepresents what was actually said. No wonder they avoided showing his actual quote.
If your view is that Starmer should have called out Israel on war crimes then thats one thing, and completely fair IMO, but this? Publishing straight-up lies? That's not journalism, that's pedalling misinformation. I'd never expectMiddle East Eye to not have some bias, but falsifying quotes is disgusting.
People are so amped up that's it's impossible to discuss certain topics with being willfully misunderstood. All to assign people a side in the conflict.
I think you're exactly right.
It's impossible to discuss this in any reasonable sense because you'll just get dismissed as a pro-genocide Nazi by some people and as a Jew-hating Nazi by the other.
God forbid I have the opinion that mass-murdering civilians at a music festival is morally wrong and so is working to wipe out people in Gaza.
Apparently only one can be wrong and I have to celebrate the other! And if an extremely deceptive article get published, I have to ignore the lies and claim that it's 100% true, but only if they agree with my side.
Honestly this comment section is depressing. It's like seeing climate change deniers. Nobody seems to care about what actually happened, they care about whether the way it was falsely framed pushes their worldview or not.
Stay strong brother. There's dozens of us.
Probably more, just not making as much noise.