When called out on it, they then doubled down on this dogshit take: https://archive.ph/quYyb
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This is unbelievably disappointing. Just canceled my annual membership (which was set to renew in ~2 weeks).
Looks like I'll be moving to Tuta tomorrow.
Okay I'm researching tuta now .. I have a 2 year sub already though. Was literally in the process of moving from Gmail. Self hosted is tough for me. I guess this is the new normal. Milkshake duck....
My suggestion is, get yourself a domain with email included (I know a few european providers that I tested personally but I bet most of them include a mail service, even if it isnt advertised in the product page), can be had for as cheap as 6€/year. Test it out see if it's enough and it works with third party email clients that you like.
Then later you can also purchase a dedicated mail service on top (but separately) of your domain, starting from 1€/month usually; the advantage to just the barebone approach is a nicer dedicated web interface, apps, support, etc. But it's optional.
I'm wary instead of these all-in-one hefty and pricy (for personal use) services like Proton, do we really need all this interoperability between a drive storage and email and calendar? I think that's the job of the operating system. Is copy-pasting a link to a different app really that inconvenient?
Thank you so much for taking the time! I am going to try and follow.
Can you recommend a good DNS provider? I've been testing namecheap but very unsure if I really want to migrate everything there.
Hi do you mean domain registrar? I use Bookmyname. OVH also worked for me, my most important features are multiple mail accounts (for family) and unlimited aliases.Then I do everything from Clawsmail and Thunderbird/K9 Mail. And of course KeepassXC to save all the aliases and passwords.
For DNS I have yet to setup a server/VM like pihole, for now I just added a few in the router like Quad9, and a few more local ones.
Yes that's what I meant 😅
I haven't decided on a mail setup yet. Letting go of automatic inbox sorting is gonna be a pain, I do not miss tweaking inbox filter rules. Maybe I'll keep Gmail around if just for the garbage.