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American Tiktok users would rather use ACTUAL Chinese spyware app than Meta. XiaoHongShu (meaning "Little Red Book") and ChatGPT (for translating the Mandarin only app) are currently #1 and #2 on the App store.

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[–] [email protected] 94 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

Pro Tip: Loops is a federated short form video platform.
Doesn't surprise me though, that most will jump ship to another Chinese spyware instead.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Loops is great but it’s not a TikTok replacement for the average TikTok user. The average TikTok user likes TikTok’s algorithms

[–] [email protected] 21 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

That is a fair point, but I've seen @[email protected] talking about what he plans to do about the algorithm to keep privacy-friendly. If I'm not wrong, I recall something along the lines of having the option to self-host your own algorithm recommendation.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Self-hosting your own recommendations would be amazing. I'm on the Testflight waitlist for Loops, hope I can get access soon.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, that would be dope. An average user probably won't use it, though. But having the option is great, and for user who don't opt in for self-hosting probably an option to export their algorithm data would be cool, for things like changing instances.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 13 hours ago

I would love to have the option to set the algorithm, like if I’m feeling sad use an algorithm that optimizes for happiness, if I’m feeling lazy use an algorithm that optimizes for inspiration, etc. This is the future I want

[–] [email protected] 35 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

A lot of them are going to it because it's Chinese Spyware, just to be petty to the government.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Yep, the sentiment is overwhelmingly what's so bad about China having our data when Meta does exactly the same if not worse. There's literal memes about skipping the middleman and sending it directly to China.

Quite a bunch are also learning mandarin to integrate better with them and a lot of chatter about how the divide is entitely made up by the government. The governments are fighting but the people on both sides are nice.

Some culture shock for americans is families in China can actually afford to stock up on food without going broke. Like, a lot of americans are seeing through the US propaganda for the first time.

They might not have free speech there and the guidelines are pretty strict, but one glaring thing is it's just a good experience there. No arguing, no shitty political takes. The lack of constant negativity and fighting is a breath of fresh air compared to what the american social medias are pushing non-stop because it's clicks and views and ad money.

I think it's all a good thing: diversification of social media platforms so you get different perspectives and cultures. We get to see first hand what life really is over there and the reverse as well. And the likelyhood that both the US and China pressure social medias to silence the same discourse is pretty small. You can make fun of Trump and Musk all day there and you won't mysteriously get burried by the algorithn because Elon pulled some strings to quiet it down. The good stuff has a tendency of being on the other side of borders.

You know the government fucked up big time when thousands of americans are fleeing to Chinese apps and learning the language and all.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 15 hours ago

Also shockingly getting more gun content than I ever did on TikTok and YouTube, turns out they kinda like guns too minus the shooting schools part.

[–] Korkki 3 points 21 hours ago

Holy ideology, Batman!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 21 hours ago

You heard me.

And it seems to be working... just saw a politician say that they need to re-review the tiktok ban citing rednote

[–] [email protected] 4 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Implementation is too slow - no plug and play app - why would they use it over an app you just need to download to use? I mean same problem as with all federation software: no central guarantors that you will always be able to chat with everyone, too much politics between all instances involved etc. which honestly is the whole point, but that's not what normies want.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

You can also just download loops? Afaik there is only one instance at the moment either way

[–] [email protected] 6 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

No App in neither play store nor f-droid nor GitHub with obtainium please provide a link. I registered this morning (EU time so ~10h ago) on the website and still don't have an admission Email. That's just not normie friendly to make it a big app, while right now would've been the time to fill the maybe void of tiktok, the execution is just too damn sloppy.

Pixelfed app can't play loops as well btw