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Seems like he wants to redirect the community to Reddit? https://old.reddit.com/r/linuxsucks101/
this post was submitted on 11 Jan 2025
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Is this dingus the reason lemmy.world changed their rules??
There have been a few communities banning a lot of people in the last few days, usually because those people would disagree/downvote
There are dedicated threads in this community ([email protected] )
So not sure which one triggered the whole thing
That's funny, I pissed off a bunch of vegans in those threads because I pointed out that we have to kill and eat other life to stay alive and that doesn't necessarily make us better people because we pick and choose the "life" we think matters based on what looks and acts like us.
They read it as an excuse to kill more instead of a reason to respect all life more, which I think is funny as fuck. I think it really shows where their minds are at, because they can't even philosophically engage with a different perspective that supports the same idea, that we should minimize suffering and all life is valuable, because they immediately view it as an excuse to kill more.
You're right, feeding plants to animals and then killing those animals definitely doesn't kill as much as eating plants directly; that's just crazy talk. You're such a champion of animal rights, way to go!
Yep, still choosing to misread what I said because you want to be able to hate others so badly. Get a grip.
I'm struggling to understand your philosophical position. If you believe that plants deserve moral consideration, how would that not lead to avoiding killing animals as a way to minimize loss of plant life?
My position is that all life is valuable. We live in an ecosystem we're literally destroying and yes animal agriculture is a massive part of that. That's why anyone who can reduce the amount of meat they eat should, and they should understand that when they take a plants life they're not "better" or more morally upstanding for eating the plant instead of the animal.
We don't have a choice, as living things, to not participate in the murder and consumption of other life. Life must feed on life. We cannot eat rocks. Only plants can synthesize solar energy. Thus we must have respect for all the life we consume to sustain us, including vegetables. Just because they don't have eyes ears nose and a face that makes us think of ourselves doesn't mean we are any more moral, it just means on some level we've realized that we must murder to stay alive, and that's step one to respecting the life we take.
I agree with vegans, that under our current scientific understanding of the world, that we simply don't know anything about plant consciousness or pain, but we know a great deal about the consciousness and pain of animals, because their cognition works like our own. Under that framework, it makes sense to limit meat consumption to limit suffering.
However, science is always changing, and I will not say unequivocally that plants, bugs, bacteria and so on don't feel pain or suffering. As such while I am more than happy to cut meat out of my diet, it doesn't necessarily make me feel more moral, upstanding, or clever. It just means I've made a choice that "some ~~animals~~ living things are more equal than others."
Thank you for at least asking a question and engaging with the position.
if your goal is to limit suffering, and limiting meat consumption had any effect on that, it would make sense. but eating meat doesn't cause suffering. so like.... don't worry about it.
I don't hate you, I just don't want to let abjectly stupid nonsense stand. I hope you have a nice day.
Considering you didn't engage with the content, ask questions, or find out more, and just decided it was "abjectly stupid nonsense" and needed to try to make fun of it says otherwise.