this post was submitted on 04 Jan 2025
264 points (82.5% liked)

linuxmemes

21736 readers
1885 users here now

Hint: :q!


Sister communities:


Community rules (click to expand)

1. Follow the site-wide rules

2. Be civil
  • Understand the difference between a joke and an insult.
  • Do not harrass or attack members of the community for any reason.
  • Leave remarks of "peasantry" to the PCMR community. If you dislike an OS/service/application, attack the thing you dislike, not the individuals who use it. Some people may not have a choice.
  • Bigotry will not be tolerated.
  • These rules are somewhat loosened when the subject is a public figure. Still, do not attack their person or incite harrassment.
  • 3. Post Linux-related content
  • Including Unix and BSD.
  • Non-Linux content is acceptable as long as it makes a reference to Linux. For example, the poorly made mockery of sudo in Windows.
  • No porn. Even if you watch it on a Linux machine.
  • 4. No recent reposts
  • Everybody uses Arch btw, can't quit Vim, <loves/tolerates/hates> systemd, and wants to interject for a moment. You can stop now.
  •  

    Please report posts and comments that break these rules!


    Important: never execute code or follow advice that you don't understand or can't verify, especially here. The word of the day is credibility. This is a meme community -- even the most helpful comments might just be shitposts that can damage your system. Be aware, be smart, don't fork-bomb your computer.

    founded 2 years ago
    MODERATORS
    264
    Orwelluan (lemmy.world)
    submitted 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) by kshade to c/linuxmemes
     

    In reference to: https://lemmy.world/post/23862757

    I use Void btw

    Image text:

    Most people rejected his message.

    "Systemd is Satan's creation! Pure Evil!"

    They hated Talking Pig because He told them the truth.

    you are viewing a single comment's thread
    view the rest of the comments
    [–] MITM0 6 points 2 days ago (3 children)

    I still can't wrap my head around why SystemD has become the defacto standard & why aren't devs trying out OTHER init-systems

    [–] rtxn 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)
    1. It was doing new things.
    2. It was easier to learn.
    3. The other init systems were (are) stagnant.

    Imagine trying to get new, young developers to adopt C or Pascal when the likes of Rust and Python exist. You can make arguments for a thing's superiority based on moral standards (which are always subjective), but morality is a poor metric. If everything was done based on that, the Linux ecosystem would be in the same state as the GNU Hurd kernel.

    [–] lurklurk 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    It's pretty good at starting services. It just keeps adding bundled things people wouldn't use otherwise, in a fairly microsoft fashion

    [–] MITM0 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)
    [–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

    Yes, always has been.

    There's also no uppercase d in systemd, the word is entirely lowercase (but I'll still write it with an uppercase s at the start of sentences).

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

    The choice of init system is up to the distro maintainers because init scripts are usually created and maintained by the packager of a given application. Debian for example chose its init system via a democratic vote. Distros that focus on different init systems exist, like the Debian fork Devuan.