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[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

First, the trill are not trans.

Yes, but Trill are every bit as trans as the network censors have allowed, at every stage of writing for them.

The idea that the Klingon society is at all progressive is absolutely divorced from any sort of reality.

Yeah. That's just silly. Klingon culture is deeply regressive, and has been falling into worse states for longer than human history.

But the individual Klingon from that scene is a progressive ( for a Klingon ).

It's the fact that they didn't even bother watching the show.

I think that's a bit unfair. People can watch the episode and still leave it with that moment as the shining in their memory as the stand-out.

That episode is an early win in LGBT representation. It's about challenges that come from having a nuanced gender identity while everyone else has heavy gender coded expectations.

Taking away "let's all please strive to achieve the bare minimum example by a mildly progressive Klingon" is a great lesson.

It's hardly the only meme that brushes aside the complexities of an episode to highlight a key moment.

I get the frustration of newbies flooding into a Star Trek forum, but then, that's always been a big part of the point of the show! They'll watch more of the show over time, even while parts of it won't age well. And we will have new things to discuss. Lol.